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Centrifugal pump explosions

06/02/2008 7:34 PM

I am concerned about pump explosions when pumping organics such as kerosine using a centrifugal pump and the outlet is blocked. Does anyone have experience with exploding pumps?

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Re: Centrifugal pump explosions

06/02/2008 8:24 PM

No yet thanks goodness. But In my opinion will be good to first obviously use an spark/explosion proof motors around and install some kind of pressure relief to by-pass back to supply tank or to some good spark/explosion proof vessel providing properly designed loop for such purpose just in case as a way to relief back - up pressures build out of safe range overthere. Also provide for a well ventilation equipment for hazard enviroment conditions all together.

Also will be important to have a fire supression monitoring system set up just in case. Anyway your engineering people will come on with best approach eventually anyhow.

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Re: Centrifugal pump explosions

06/03/2008 3:07 AM

Centrifugal pumps don't 'explode'; they just achieve the dead-head pressure that is shown on the flow/pressure chart and that's that. The casing will be rated for a higher pressure than the dead-head pressure.

However, the turbulence in the casing is dissipated as heat, so expect the temperature to rise if the fluid isn't going anywhere.

How about a high-pressure trip to cut the motor power if the fluid isn't going anywhere?

Or how about route-proving microswitches on all downstream valves and an electrical interlock arrangement to prevent the pump from being run against a dead end?

Or simpler, how about lock-open valves downstream?

Or, how about removing all on/off valves downstream of the pump?

In well-run industries, these considerations are raised at a HazOp Study.

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Re: Centrifugal pump explosions

06/03/2008 12:33 PM

A positive displacement pump will break if pumping against a blockage, but not the centrifugal as stated. The discharge pipe would give way before the pump casing most likely as it is weaker.

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06/03/2008 10:36 PM

How can you say the piping will break before the pump? The pump may have a MAOP of 1200 psi and the piping and flanges 1480, can you gaurentee the piping will burst first.

This is why we install PSV's set at thje lower of the pump MAOP or the piping.

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06/04/2008 7:32 AM

I didn't say "before". Discharge pipe is after pump.

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06/05/2008 9:55 AM

let me rephase, how can you say the piping anywhere on the system will fail before the pump will fail. My previous post the word before was in reference to prior time or event, not before meaning upstream.

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06/04/2008 8:49 AM

In the paper industry, pumps or refiners (wood fiber processing equipment that act somewhat like grinders) both can explode if operated against a dead head. The temp rises as pump energy goes in faster than head dissipates, then when steam is generated, equipment can explode.

And this is with non-combusible materials. Any liquid with heat sensitivity is something to be cautious with, of course.

I've also worked with pumps in explosion-proof environments where any spark will do the job.

Be careful out there.

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Re: Centrifugal pump explosions

06/03/2008 11:10 PM

Your pump should be fitted with a bypass valve all fuel pumps i have worked on have had iether a bypass back to tank or an internal bypass valve as part of the pump Gilbarco bennet pumps etc all sell them the smallest pump being for refuelling cars etc up to 6" models for bulk dispensing. it is a basic spring loaded valve beteen the inlet and outlet when the pressure reaches a set reading the valve opens and the product recirculates until pressure is reduced by opening refuelling nozzle etc. Never heard of a pump exploding, unless a seal goes and the fuel leaks from the pump exposing the fuel to an ignition source.

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06/04/2008 2:18 AM

I've seen centrifugal pumps break open. The cause was always the same, someone fed the relief pressure back into the inlet. As centrifugal pumps raise the pressure by a set amount, by increasing the inlet pressure ( by feeding in the outlet line) teh pump increases teh pressure exponentially, blowing up the weakest bits. Normally couplings, seals etc tend to leak first limiting the damage.

To avoid the above enure the pressure relief fluid feeds back to the tank or the pressure is removed prior to admission to the inlet.

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06/04/2008 9:12 AM

Bingo. I've seen it as well on a hot brine system where the discharge piping was fibreglass. That stuff fails catastrophically. The stuff was metered anyway and they had motor amp indication, so a simple low amp/low flow cutout would have saved a great deal of damage. They added a high casing temp input and tripped on any 2 of the 3 variables going out of range to minimize nuiscance trips due to flow metering issues.

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06/03/2008 11:19 PM

I remove old underground tanks for customers often and I use a small 12 volts pump to move 300 to 500 gals of kerosene and never had a problem. You must be pumping a lot of be in a real hurry to use such a large pump.

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06/03/2008 11:38 PM

A a pump technical authority for a major oil company, please allow me to suggest how we do it pumping LNG, LPG, Petrol, Crude Oil and things much more volatile than Kero.

The pump case and all piping, including suction lateral downstream of the suction block valve should be rated for the sum of the maximum pressure producing constituents:

* Maximum fluid density that can ever be utilised by this pump

* Maximum suction pressure including surge upsets

* API 610 / ISO 13709 Max impeller diameter

* Trip speed minus 1 RPM, not less than 105%

* Shutoff head

* Case material reactions at all extreme temperatures

* 10% above all the sums above

* 150% above the above sum for hydrostatic test

* And if the hydro test pressure indicates the next size flange must be utilised, then all the above must be re-rated for that flange rating.

* Corrosion / abrasion allowance additional thickness

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The area 10 m around the unit should be Zone 2 classified.

PSV (relief valves) are OK, but are not allowed to be relied upon to protect the pump or piping from bursting due to overpressure since they can fail as well. i.e. the system should be able to be run at zero flow without rupture.

A case temperature shutoff is always utilised at the best strategic point where case temperature will rise the fastest at shutoff.

A case and / or shaft vibration detection instrument should be utilised to detect vibration at flows below the minimum continuous stable flow point of the curve as defined by ISO 13709 / API 610.

There are no liquids that burn, only vapors combined with oxygen. Keep the fluid below the vapor pressure and keep it in the pump and pipe and you will be fine.

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Re: Centrifugal pump explosions

06/04/2008 12:21 AM

The blocked pipe (High Pressure) situation has been well covered. I would just like to add that I would be very concerned about cavitation within the pump casing.

With the reduced pressure you could well get vapourisation and a heat build up.

Not a good combination with combustible liquids.

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06/04/2008 7:23 AM

We have been moving bulk IPA (isopropyl alcohol) for many years. Yes it is an explosion proof set up. But we have no reliefs in place. The pump itself is an aluminum housing but the impeller drive is magnetically coupled. It has the ability to over come the head pressure but if there is a blockage or dead heading (valve closed off) the pump motor can free spin and the pump will not over pressure or cavitate because it can stop with out burning up or exploding. Theses set ups are a little higher in the beginning but they will not require all the extra cut off stuff.

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06/04/2008 3:35 PM

Have you given thought to use of a "jet pump" to move the fluid. These pumps are often employed in aircraft fuel tanks to move fuel for balance purposes.

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06/04/2008 4:53 PM

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Re: Centrifugal pump explosions

10/26/2009 3:42 AM

Geoff

I did extensive research back in 2003/4 and put a presentation together. I believe I was the first person to document the phenomenon. I presented it at the International Hydrohoisting Conference in April 2004 in Santiago. The pump explosions I studied are non-chemical. Here is the link and hope it can be of some use to you.

http://www.amre.org.za/downloads/seminars/16March2006/Pump%20explosions%20Amplats.pdf

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