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Questions about pressure rating for Valves.

07/18/2008 3:53 AM

Dear All,

I am new here and excited to join CR4. :)

Below is my questions and hope someone could answer for me.
I was totally confused with these pressure rating terms.

(1) Many manufacturers will note their valves with "600WOG"
I know W.O.G. means "Water, Oil and Gas" and 600 means 600PSI.
However they didn't mention at what temperature, they conduct the
pressure rating test.

(2) What does pressure rating "PN" means.
And at what temperature, they conduct the pressure rating test?

Hope someone could answer them for me.

Thanks.

Jones

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Re: Questions about pressure rating for Valves.

07/19/2008 7:28 AM

600WOG Water, Oil and Gas" and 600 means 600PSI. = shell pressure 600 psi

so high pr closer test pr is 600/1.5 = 400 psi

PN Means nominal pipe pressure

10 PN MEANS CLOSERE TEST AT 10 BAR SHELL TEST AT 10 X 1.5 = 15 BAR

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Re: Questions about pressure rating for Valves.

07/19/2008 9:32 PM

Hello jonesliu:

Welcome! Are you speaking of the 'contents' tempurature, or ambiant working temp?

Check out this site for a whole range of stats on heat disipation and MP (Melting Points).

"PN" means "Pressure number"...

It can't be that high as this valve is brass. The site below seems based on water pressure. Hope this helps.

below:
In a working pipeline system, however, the useful working pressure can be limited by the sealing ability of the joints, the pressure rating of the fittings or by the ability to the resist the end-loads that result from pressure.
The maximum system pressure should normally be lower than the maximum pressure rating of the pipe and fittings used. The main exception is that site commissioning tests (leak tests) are often carried out above the rated pressure but this is usually only for a short time and the effects of the excess test pressure should be covered by the safety factor. The recommended test conditions vary for different pipeline materials, and may vary from job to job so it is important to check.
Pressure rating is described in a number of ways – for example by a pressure Class "A", "B", "C", etc or by nominal pressure as PN10, PN16 etc (PN comes from the French for Nominal Pressure, which is the official pressure rating rather than the actual pressure capability of an individual pipe).
Rather than explain them all in detail, the table below shows how the different descriptions of pressure class compare with each other. The conversions aren't exact, but are close enough for everyday purposes.

Approximate conversions between common pressure units.

Pressure classPNBarMetres headMPakPaPsi
A33300.330045
B66600.660090
C99900.9900135
D12121201.21,200180
E15151501.51,500225
F18181801.81,800270
No Class defined101010011,000150
No Class defined16161601.61,600240
No Class defined202020022,000300
No Class defined25252502.52,500375

Until recently, the pressure class of ductile iron pipes (and cast iron pipes before that) was described through the wall thickness K9, K12, K14 etc, which was used to work out the pressure rating. Since 2004, these K classes have been replaced by PN ratings but K classes will be around for a while as old stocks are used up and, of course, older fitting and pipelines with these ratings will remain in service for many years to come.

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Re: Questions about pressure rating for Valves.

07/19/2008 9:55 PM

Hello again, I forgot to mention the MP of brass. I have pasted a comparison chart, (and I forgot to spell check the first post of mine, sorry).

This chart is from the 'muggyweld' site:

Melting Points of Metals

Elements

Symbol

Melting Point Celsius

Melting Point Fahrenheit

AluminumAl6591218

Brass (85 Cu 15Zn)

Cu+Zn

900-940

1652-1724

Bronze (90 Cu 10 Sn)Cu+Sn850-10001562-832
Cast IronC+Si+Mn+Fe12602300
CarbonC36006512
ChromiumCr16153034
CopperCu10831981
GoldAu10631946
HydrogenH-259-434.2
InconelNi+Cr+Fe13932540
IronFe15302786
LeadPb327621
MagnesiumMg6701240
ManganeseMn12602300
MonelNi+Cu+Si13012400
NickelNi14522646
PhosphorousP44111
SiliconSi14202588
SilverAg9611762
Stainless SteelCr+Ni+Mn+C13632550
Steel-High CarbonCr+Ni+Mn+C13532500
Medium CarbonCr+Ni+Mn+C14272600
Low CarbonCr+Ni+Mn+C14642700
TinSn232450
TitaniumTi17953263
TungstenW30005432
ZincZn419786

Hope this helps babybear

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Re: Questions about pressure rating for Valves.

07/28/2008 2:55 AM

Please refer to the following CR4 threads: Pressure Rating , Pound Rating & PN numbers vs. valve class in ASME standard

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