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Spheres of Water on Hot Pan

07/31/2008 4:13 AM

When we pour some water on hot pan we see that water suddenly evaporates & some spheres of water start dancing on its surface & at the same time getting reduced in size.

I want to know the theory or mechanism behind this phenomenon. What force keeps water sphere from collapsing?

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07/31/2008 4:41 AM

Hello pc,

The phenomenon is called the "Leidenfrost Effect", after Leidenfrost, who first noted the effect.

The effect varies with the liquid, the surface, the relative humidity (for water), and the plate temperature.

Too low a plate temperature, and no Leidenfrost Effect, move plate temperature up, and the Leidenfrost Effect starts, at a further increased temperature, no Leidenfrost Effect.

Although the Effect is reasonably well known, further studies could prove useful, particularly in the field of liquid-fuelled rocket engines, petrol (gasoline) engines carburretion and the like.

The tiny spheres of water are kept off the hot surface, by a cushion of steam, which ejects out of the base under the water sphere in random directions.

Thus the water spheres "skitter" at apparently random paths to and fro across the surface, decreasing all the while, because that cushion of steam under each droplet has to be obtained and boiled from the water droplet itself.

So, after a time, the water droplets vanish, because each has been turned into steam.

Liquids other than water can be used, but water is most effective, because of the high surface tension.

OK, that's enough from my personal Memory banks, and here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leidenfrost_effect is useful further information.

There is useful information also here, including some interesting short movies of the Leidenfrost Effect: http://www.uoregon.edu/~linke/climbingdroplets/index.html

Hope that assists you.

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08/01/2008 8:51 AM

Nailed that answer particluarly well....

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08/01/2008 10:14 AM

Very good answer, but I thought is was Sessile effect.

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08/01/2008 12:40 PM

I'm not sure if sessile droplets are exhibiting the same behavior. Don't have time to investigate right now...sorry.

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07/31/2008 4:44 AM

<...What force keeps water sphere from collapsing?...>

Surface Tension keeps the droplet together. Pool boiling is taking place close to the interface between the hot surface and the droplet. The droplets are "dancing" because they are floating on a turbulent layer of steam at this interface. Combined heat and mass transfer transfer is the phenomenon that limits the rate of reduction in size of the droplets.

These phenomena can be studied as fundamentals during an undergraduate course in Chemical Engineering.

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07/31/2008 5:34 AM

The droplets are "dancing" because they are floating on a turbulent layer of steam.

So it's not just 'cos they are funky?

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07/31/2008 5:44 AM

Hello Del the cat

Yes, the Music played during the "dancing", is Musica universalis = The Music of the Spheres.

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07/31/2008 7:58 AM

Kinda like a cat on a hot tin roof, huh Del?

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08/01/2008 12:36 PM

Water droplets got happy feet!

Early in the evenin just about supper time,
Over by the courthouse theyre startin' to unwind.
Four kids on the corner trying to bring you up.
Willy picks a tune out and he blows it on the harp.

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Willy and the poorboys are playin;
Bring a nickel; tap your feet.

Rooster hits the washboard and people just got to smile,
Blinky thumps the gut bass and solos for a while.
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07/31/2008 11:34 PM

This means that the surface tension ofrce of water is so much that even the turbulent flow of steam & bouncing of the sphere cannot collapse it.

By the way, is it anything to do with hydrophobicity?

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08/01/2008 9:08 AM

Actually, I believe you mean to say film boiling. The heat flux from the heated surface is so high that it immediately flashes the water to steam and prevents the water from wetting the surface.

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07/31/2008 11:20 PM

Any liquid molecule has it's "Tension" on surfdace like the water drop on the water lily's leave, it keeps moving in pressed ball shape, and this features was used a lot in our daily life like "TNF" coloth.

Theroy is to reduce the polarity of one solid subject, so that the water drop will not be "attracted " by the solid surface and when the surface tension of water drop can cover the "attraction " from the solid surface, this water drop will keep the shape without collasping. By using this theory we can do some special treatment to use chemical way to reduce the fibres' polarity so that the water drop will not stay on the cloth's surface and keeps sliding down.

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08/01/2008 12:01 AM

Thanks jasonzen

That was a nice little bit of additional information.

Can you give us some examples?

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08/01/2008 1:36 AM

In apparel industry or Bag's indurstry we call this "Water Repellent", which is different from "Waterproof". It gives the fabric light weight and will not get wet when rains.

Such as wax polishing on the car so the raining drops will not stay on the car.

Such as 3M Scotch dealed Cloth for Raining Jacket.

It was called surfactants .

It is not just only make the surface to be shining ( you may do the shining work of your car by cloth but you can not make the rain go away quickly ), all is about to make the water drops keeps it surface tension and without stick to the other surface . A simple theory of Universal Gravitation, two objects attract each other, light one goes to heavier one, in this case is same, surface has lots of polarity , the strength of polarity is decided by the Molecular Weight, The Molecular Weight is bigger, then the Polarity will be bigger too.

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08/01/2008 1:47 AM

Many thanks.

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08/01/2008 2:01 AM

This entertaining phenomenon occurs because the water evaporates fast enough to support the liquid water on a current of water vapor.

Evaporation is greatly accelerated by heat radiated from the surface of the pan.

Surface tension pulls the suspended water into spheres, which have the least surface area per unit volume of any geometric solid.

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08/01/2008 9:06 PM

The only thing I was going to add was that it's because of the radiant heat is enough to cause the surface boiling. Generally when you fry things the heat transfer is through the conduction via contact of your juicy steak to you iron fry pan. But if you get the iron fry pan hot enough then the radiant heat flux will increase to such a level that you get the surface boiling.

Other metals like Aluminium will create the same effect at lower temperatures because the emissivity is higher so the radiant heat flux is higher at lower temps.

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08/02/2008 9:46 PM

Hello ESO

One should never cook in Aluminium pans, pots etc, nor use the "non-stick coated" articles, because these have long-term toxic effects.

Cast Iron, Stainless steel are OK, with no bad long-term effects for the body.

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08/01/2008 6:22 AM

As a fun little aside, the Leidenfrost effect is also what keeps your feet from burning when you (or hopefully someone else) walks across hot coals. I remember watching a video in my high school physics class that starred a local college professor explaining how it works and then he walked across the hot coals. I guess the whole secret is being nervous enough before hand that your feet sweat.

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