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Cu Busbars of Rectangular Section In Air

08/06/2008 9:19 PM

What dose the Minimum Phase Centers given in milimeter represent?

Say Single Bar per Phase; Bar Width = 12.5mm

Minimum Phase Centers = 25mm ???

Current Capacity = 2.5 mm

Taken from Australian Standart AS 3000 - 1986, Page 309

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Re: Cu Busbars of Rectangular Section In Air

08/06/2008 10:50 PM

Hello Ron Nombri

From the Standards Australia website just now:

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That's what the Standards.com.au website says.

So I cannot access it at all.

The Bar width = 12.5mm = a busbar which is 12.5 mm wide, it does not state how THICK that busbar is.

Minimum phase centres = 25 mm = Minumum distance between the centrelines of adjacent phase busbars.

Current Capacity = 2.5 mm = That's the allowable rated current.

Further:

It does appear that you have quoted part of some table.

I don't have a copy of AS 3000 - 1986 (Which is apparently out of date, according to their website), to know the context of your stated figures.

A busbar which carries 2.5 mm appears to be a misprint.

Also the Minimum Phase Centres figure quoted also appears to be either a misprint, or incorrect.

Please advise further, with

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Re: Cu Busbars of Rectangular Section In Air

08/06/2008 11:56 PM

Thankyou Sparkstation;

My apology, sorry. My typing error on current capacity and not stating the thickness. I also checked the website http://henrietta.liswa.wa.gov.au/search/dElectric+wiring+--+Standards+--+Australia./delectric+wiring+standards+australia/-3,-1,0,B/browse but could not has access to the standards.

Correct Data:

Say Single Bar per Phase; Bar Width = 12.5mm

Minimum Phase Centers = 25mm ???

Thickness = 2.5mm

Current Capacity = 190A

Taken from Australian Standart AS 3000 - 1986, Page 309

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Re: Cu Busbars of Rectangular Section In Air

08/07/2008 8:35 AM

Hello again, Ron Nombri

<"....

Correct Data:

Say Single Bar per Phase; Bar Width = 12.5mm

Minimum Phase Centers = 25mm ???

Thickness = 2.5mm

Current Capacity = 190A

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What this is saying that your rating for copper busbars 12.2mm wide x 2.5 mm thick, has a rating of 190 Amps, when the centres of those 3 phases busbars are 25 mm centre to centre.

Now because the busbar is 2.5mm thick, it is 1.25 mm from the outer face to the busbar centre line, thus in practice, there will be a gap of 25mm - 1.25mm - 1.25mm = 22.5mm actual gap between the outside "width side" surfaces of the adjacent busbars.

I do not know your operating temperature, but that will, of course, have a large bearing on the actual busbar maximum current.

Busbar chambers must be carefully designed, more as the Short Circuit rating increases.

In large installations, under short circuit conditions, there may be thousands of tons of force exerted on the busbars, because of the extreme magnetic fields.

I have seen large busways and associated switchboards destroyed, because the designers forgot to allow for the combined effect of a short circuit, combined with a simultaneous lightning strike.

If you are designing a busbar chamber, or switchboard, please derate for higher ambient temperature, ensure plenty of strong insulating fixings of the busbars, allow for explosion venting away from persons and/or equipment, and trust you don't get a direct or near hit, with a lightning strike.

I see your location is Papua New Guinea, which is a lightning factory, on many days per year.

Trust you feel assisted.

Kind Regards....

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Re: Cu Busbars of Rectangular Section In Air

08/07/2008 12:45 PM

Hello Sparkstation;

Thank you so much for your great assissatnce.

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