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Can i measure a diesel or petrol using a magnetic flow meter?

08/25/2008 4:04 AM

Can i measure a diesel or petrol or oil flow using a magnetic flow meter?

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08/25/2008 4:17 AM

No. The fluid must be, to some reasonable extent, conductive.

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08/25/2008 5:28 AM

Hello JohnDG

from me

Kind Regards....

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08/25/2008 5:27 AM

Hello franklin.s

JohnDG is correct.

Read about Magnetic Flow Meters here: http://www.omega.com/prodinfo/magmeter.html

You can easily see from that webpage, that the "make your car more economical by fitting our fuel magnetizer in the fuel line" and such type of snake oil remedies, just cannot possibly work, either, because there is nothing to magnetise in either diesel or petrol, unless the fuel is contaminated with water.

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08/25/2008 1:57 PM

Well the answer is Yes and No.

First the answer, yes, what you do is place a magnetometer diametrically opposite the source/generator device of the magnetic field by which you wish to make the measurement and then generate magnetograms of the change in the direction of the field as the fluid velocity changes - now this is possible because every molecule has a characteristic "recessional angular magnetic field" which gets distorted when impinged upon with a magnetic field and in reciprocity also displaces the field from its original direction.

Next the answer, No, because the cost is so exhorbitant that you would not want to do so unless you have no other option.

I hope that this is helpful

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08/25/2008 6:41 PM

Hi, editorgbanalysts, where do we go to get one of these wonderful postulated devices (i.e. magnetic flow meters which will measure the flow of diesel/petrol)?

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08/25/2008 7:31 PM

Sir! Every molecule has a "defining" free floating electron that exists in an orbit with a characteristic recessional angle and as such establishes a magnetic field for that molecule. check it out. Thank you.

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08/26/2008 3:15 AM

I'm not questioning the physics - just the practical application.

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08/26/2008 6:05 PM

As I said, it is very expensive to make and to buy. But if you must then contact NASA they use them to map the solar systems and also check the Bioelectromagnetic fora, the entire discussions on those fora deal with applications of that sort; and they are many.

I once came across one that you would not able to buy for less than well... half a mill.

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08/26/2008 6:45 PM

So maybe you'd agree that franklin.s may have been be better served, in answer to this question:

"Can i measure a diesel or petrol or oil flow using a magnetic flow meter?"

- with the first answer as "No"?

(I realise that we know nothing about franklin.s, but I think it reasonable to assume that he is questioning the functionality of commercially available instruments).

It's fair enough to go on by explaining that it is theoretically possible to devise such a flowmeter, and possibly to cite examples of such instruments - but then you should further advise that no such device is available on the open market.

The answer to the OP is, emphatically, "No".

Had the question been phrased:

"Is it possible to design or obtain a magnetic flow meter to measure a diesel or petrol or oil flow?"

- it would have been a different question. I hope you appreciate the difference.

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08/26/2008 7:05 PM

Actually, you mangled the semantics you were trying to push. Look the question as phrased is as per you stated:

Can i measure a diesel or petrol or oil flow using a magnetic flow meter?"

and the key word there is "Can" which I read as meaning "ability to do" and not capability. Can he do that and I say Yes but is he capable of doing it No he can not because he most likely does not have enough money to do it. Then, of course, a magnetic flow meter is a generic term for any instrument that can measure flow by magnetic field.

Now again on the flip side; the question:

"Is it possible to design or obtain a magnetic flow meter to measure a diesel or petrol or oil flow?"

The choices are mixed up: look the segment "Is it possible to design" and your answer Yes applies, "is it possible to obtain" and your answer no longer applies because he still can not obtain it as he does not have enough money nor will he be willing to pay the insurance for it.

I hope we get the various interpretation clear. Thank you.

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Re: Can i measure a diesel or petrol using a magnetic flow meter?

08/26/2008 4:28 AM

No if the process fluid is non-conductive, which applies to most fuels.

Further, in many cases there is the flammability to consider. If the fluid is such that an installation must be compliant with local regulations of the use of electrical equipment in potentially explosive atmospheres, that may pose further restrictions on the type of flowmeter to be used. Certainly, this would be the case with petrol. Magnetic flowmeters usually fall outside these restrictions, and attempting to use one on this fluid will not prove popular with fire insurance companies...

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Re: Can i measure a diesel or petrol using a magnetic flow meter?

08/27/2008 11:58 AM

Sure magflow can be used for Diesel.

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Re: Can i measure a diesel or petrol using a magnetic flow meter?

10/10/2008 2:03 AM

the electrical condutivity must be greater than the 5 micro siemens / cm2 and the the fluide passing should be in such a manner it must mounted in an 30 degeree elevation the fluid must be filld the pipe with uniform during measuring time

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