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Non Ultra Low Sulphur Diesl in ULSD engines

08/29/2008 4:00 PM

we're deciding on some refuse equipment diesel powered, but our fuel is high sulfur grade, what are the immediate effect if we use this fule on the new emission 2007 diesel engines coming out of the states?

does the high slufur affect the eninge or the converters initially. we want to be sure before we get the equipments...

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Re: Non Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel in ULSD engines

08/29/2008 11:31 PM

First emission complaint engines are tested using low sulfur diesel the engine you intend to run on diesel high in sulfur the emissions from the engine will not meet EPA or Euro commission requirements

second you would kill your engines fuel injection system as the injectors are are designed to operate on low sulfur diesel(The injector Nozzle holes are selected based on low sulfur diesel characters)

hence i would advice not to run 2007 emission complaint engines on high sulfur diesel which would cost you the engine itself.Go to diesel net.com you will find more answers to your problem it would cost you about 140$ to access this web site for detailed informations and help/year

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08/30/2008 12:11 PM

Would you please explain % sulphur in relation to high sulphur content fuels you are using.

Do you mean over 0.5% sulphur, over 1% sulphur or 4%+. I have seen boilers and slow speed marine diesels run on the latter fuels mentioned. Some bunkers or residual fuels have been up around 6% sulphur.

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08/31/2008 11:44 PM

Dear sir

Could you send your e-mail ID i can mail you few documents which will answer your questions to some extent.I am an ex Caterpillar application engineer now laid off in 2005, I was working closely with EPA,Euro commission and Indian government till 2005 as standing committee member for emissions with Ministry of Forests and environment and Central Pollution control board .and part of Indian institute of science and Bosh India for developing emission compliance engines from out dated old designs.

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09/02/2008 10:38 PM

my email is benhur@aspower.com

our fuel is 0.5% sulphur

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08/30/2008 12:58 PM

The supply of older high sulfur usage engines is insufficient for refuse equipment?

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09/02/2008 10:52 PM

we are out to buy new equipment, we specified "2007" the emissions are not really an issue with us here in the Pacific, our environment(air) is deemed prestine, however the trucks coming out of the states all require to be low sulphur as you all are aware of.

we are leaning toward new "2007" equipment(aerial device, refuse equipment, etc...) mounted on old emission chassis. we want to satisfy however the homework of medium/high sulfur fuel in ULSD engines.

i'm the guy holding the wrench on this rock, we're about 2thousand miles south of Hawaii and we want to be certain before comitting we're quite a ways away from quick help.

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08/30/2008 10:31 PM

Why don't you contact the representative of the engine manufacturer in question that covers your location? They have a vested interest in having you buy their engines, even if you are not buying the engines directly from them.

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08/31/2008 2:55 PM

Were I to ask myself these questions I would determine the changes made from those engines designed for high sulfur fuel.

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09/01/2008 9:54 AM

If you run this engine, designed to run on ULSD, on a fuel of higher sulphur content than 0,05%, the first thing that you will possibly do is poison the DOC (Diesel Engine Catalysts)...............this will probably occur in a matter of weeks.

The higher sulphur content will also increase your PM (Particulate Matter).............this includes solids, VOCs (Volatile Organic Compounds-includes heavy hydrocarbons) and sulphates and NOXs (Nitrogen Oxides)

Apart from this the engine will also run inefficiently, which is the cause of the above mentioned problems and more.

As a matter of interest in some countries adulteration of LSD fuels with high sulphur content kerosene occurs.........this is not nice!!!!

Also as a matter of SAFETY, ULSD fuels generate high static charges of electricity, therefore take all measures necessary to overcome this problem.

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