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Car Stereo doesn't work

09/12/2008 11:43 PM

The Bose stereo system in my car has some kind of voltage regulation problem. The LED display is on and I can hear the scanner moving as I skip tracks for the CD player, however there is no sound. I changed the 15 Amp fuse in the indoor fuse box located under the steering wheel to to avail.

Everytime I turn the Ignition I see a spark on the fuse. I have done this severally; the fuse breaks-5 times in a row specifically. I experimented by inserting a 20 Amp fuse instead. The stereo works!! But as expected, there was distortion and I turned off the ignition asap to prevent the unit from frying.

Conclusion: The stereo works. The current supplied to the unit is consistenly higher than required......HELP!!

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09/13/2008 12:04 AM

What does Bose tell you to use as a fuse to protect the system? Or is this a factory installed Bose system?

If Bose says the fuse should be 15 amp, you have a problem. Do you have an ammeter? What is the Bose drawing when working? If this is not a factory installed Bose, have a qualified installer look at it. There have been some real abortions done in the aftermarket radio installation field. Good luck.

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09/13/2008 1:10 AM

The Bose is in fact factory installed. I am going by the legend on the car's fuse box so am pretty sure it is 15Amps.

I can get an ammeter....I'll post my findings as soon as I can. Thanks Bob.

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09/13/2008 2:40 PM

Do you have any thing else that might have been tapped into that fuse power? An additional amp, GPS, Microwave oven ?

If not, you probably have a short of some kind as mentioned above. Is there any warranty on the vehicle? If you do not, try to find the factory authorized repair facility for the Bose. Everybody will want to sell you a new better system without finding out what is wrong with yours. You might want to think about removing the Bose unit yourself, or having the dealer just remove it. Then seek to have price quotes on the repairs needed.

I just had a new thought. (First one this month) Does this model have a separate remote amplifier? These are commonly mounted in the rear under the package shelf, or in the trunk. If you can, try to unplugging that unit, and see if it still blows fuses. Good luck.

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09/13/2008 1:05 AM

You can buy a type of wire for stereos that has a built in fuse protector so you won't blow any more and it will tell you the amplification rartingscorpio69

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09/13/2008 3:33 AM

One thing I noticed about Bose car speakers was the 1 ohm impedance rating. That tells me that these things are power hogs. If you tell us the particular model that you have we can search for information on the 'net on how much current it draws.

Assuming that 15 amps is correct, however, I can only say that your unit's power amplifier has a partial short somewhere. Without more information, that's as good a guess as I can give.

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09/14/2008 12:26 AM

you need a condenser some where long the line to absorb the excess electric waves,

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09/14/2008 5:34 AM

The most common issue is with the amplifiers. Most Bose systems, besides some early GM are individual amplifiers mounted to or near the speakers. Usually the problem will start with some sort of crackling or shorting out sound that will be intermittent, followed by periods of no sound, and/or very loud crackling which can be the cause of Blown Fuses. As mentioned, the 1ohm speaker/amps are current centered to get more energy applied from the low voltage (11v-14v) system, without using an inverted dc/dc converter to keep costs low. This is the real crux of the problem, as noted by the gentleman from Ft Lauderdale, a stereo shop will try to sell you a new system. And for a good reason, the Bose engineering team has always been told to get as much as possible sound, with a lower cost in manufacturing than is necessary to produce complete sound quality and longevity. The sound of the system is to enhance some characteristics of the music in order to make the listener perceive greater sound. Yet does, until very recently, not produce a true level of sonic purity. That aside, the system is closed loop, meaning that the only place to get replacement parts is from the dealership and at a great markup. This is by design, and as such, the stereo dealer sees this and can offer repair services for the Bose amps, expecting them to break again soon after, or he can replace the whole closed loop system with an open (common 4 ohm/design principle) system that allows the customer more options and usually better sound for around the same money one would spend going to the dealership and having the closed system fixed. Hope this helps, I was in the mobile electronics industry for almost 20 years, and still do repair service and installation, on the side.

Therefore my suggestion is to replace the system, instead of wasting your time and energy and resources fixing the system. However, if you, as many do, want to continue to work on this horse, I will gladly assist.

Is this Bose system: GM, Nissan/Infinity, or Honda/Acura?

How old is the vehicle, what year/model?

Do you have any of the static or other symptoms mentioned?

Does any particular speaker present these problems?

When the fuse blows, does the display go out on the radio or just no sound?

BTW I AM fishing for my first good answer,... anyone? :)

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09/14/2008 6:27 PM

"the gentleman from Ft Lauderdale"

How cheap do you think I am? I don't give GAs out without at least a "great guy", or "wonderful person". I feel so cheap and used.

I am routinely suspicious of repair facilities that want consumers to "scrap your system and buy a new one from me" I feel that too many repair facilities that started offering replacement systems as a service, have now become sales facilities, with a repair shop to boost sales, where the big money is. I have tried to make a habit of not buying replacement parts from a repair facility. As in a radiator facility wanting me to buy a new radiator.

Getting back to the OP. If he is able to disconnect each speaker/amp from the system individually, will the system work with the three remaining speaker/ amps connected, thereby testing for where the shorted amp is?

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09/15/2008 8:11 PM

"the gentleman from Ft Lauderdale"

Just tipping my hat to a fellow Floridian.

"I am routinely suspicious of repair facilities that want consumers to "scrap your system and buy a new one from me" I feel that too many repair facilities that started offering replacement systems as a service, have now become sales facilities, with a repair shop to boost sales, where the big money is. I have tried to make a habit of not buying replacement parts from a repair facility. As in a radiator facility wanting me to buy a new radiator.One of the reasons"

You have a good reason to be cautious, you do indeed have to trust that the repair facillity has your interests in mind.

What a quality business wants for their customer is their satisfaction above short term profit. In places like Ft lauderdale, and other large cities you have to be careful who you do business with as many are more worried about the guy down the street getting your business, instead of focusing on servicing the customer.

(I was a manufacturer representative for most of the premier 12v automotive electronics manufacturers, so I have dealt with the complete gamut of stereo sales/repair shops).

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09/15/2008 10:26 PM

Great Answer, Thanx.

The car is an Infiniti i30 1997.

I hear the loud cracking from the right hand speaker.

When the fuse blows, the display stays on...NO sound.

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09/14/2008 9:05 AM

Take the car to the mechanic... or sell it.

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09/14/2008 9:31 AM

Might be prudent to just stop by a car stereo shop and just let them give you there diagnosis of the problem.

At minimum, you'll have a little more information to work with given to you by someone who deals with car stereos on a daily basis. Unless you would rather ride to work just humming your favorite tunes...

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09/14/2008 10:13 AM

Slience is Golden to me.

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09/15/2008 6:32 AM

As has been mentioned it is a good possibility that theres a BOSE amp somewhere in your car, maybe under the parcel shelf in the rear (access from trunk). You could try a junk/salvage yard and see if you could pick up a used one from a junked car. It's probably a couple of minutes to swap it out and could be a cheap way to fix your problem. Good luck!

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09/15/2008 9:31 AM

Your problem is simple it is spelled B - O - S - E.. translated this means garbage.

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09/15/2008 10:36 PM

After a lot of troubleshooting, i identified the problem to have originated from the rear right-hand speaker. I disconnected the terminal leading to that speaker and the fuse doesn't blow anymore.

The system works perfect minus that speaker. I sniffed the chip block that the power supply to the speaker bypasses and it is definately fried. Im still looking for the part online. Thank you all for your insight.

Any ideas where I can get this part?

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