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Essential Terminology for Engineers: Input Required

09/27/2008 9:59 AM

Engineers' Terminologies

1. A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT APPROACHES ARE BEING TRIED - We are still pissing in the wind.

2. EXTENSIVE REPORT IS BEING PREPARED ON A FRESH APPROACH TO THE PROBLEM - - We just hired three kids fresh out of college.

3. CLOSE PROJECT COORDINATION - We know who to blame.

4. MAJOR TECHNOLOGICAL BREAKTHROUGH - It works OK, but looks very hi-tech.

5. CUSTOMER SATISFACTION IS DELIVERED ASSURED - We are so far behind schedule the customer is happy to get it delivered.

6. PRELIMINARY OPERATIONAL TESTS WERE INCONCLUSIVE - The darn thing blew up when we threw the switch.

7. TEST RESULTS WERE EXTREMELY GRATIFYING - We're surprised that the stupid thing works.

8. THE ENTIRE CONCEPT WILL HAVE TO BE ABANDONED - The only person who understood the thing quit.

9. IT IS IN THE PROCESS - It is so wrapped up in red tape that the situation is about hopeless.

10. WE WILL LOOK INTO IT - Forget it! We have enough problems for now.

11. PLEASE NOTE AND INITIAL - Let's spread the responsibility for the screw up.

12. GIVE US THE BENEFIT OF YOUR THINKING - We'll listen to what you have to say as long as it doesn't interfere with what we've already done.

13. GIVE US YOUR INTERPRETATION - I can't wait to hear this bull!

14. SEE ME or LET'S DISCUSS - Come into my office, I'm lonely. - Come to my office, I've screwed up again.

15. ALL NEW - Parts not interchangeable with the previous design.

16. RUGGED - Too damn heavy to lift!

17. LIGHTWEIGHT - Lighter than RUGGED.

18. YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT - One finally worked.

19. ENERGY SAVING - Achieved when the power switch is off.

20. LOW MAINTENANCE- Impossible to fix if broken.

21. IT IS TECHNICALLY IMPOSSIBLE - I don't feel like doing it.

22. IT DEPENDS... - Abandon all hope of a useful answer.

23. THE DATA BITS ARE FLEXED THROUGH A COLLECTIMIZER WHICH STRIPS THE FLOW- GATE ARRAYS INTO VIRTUAL MESSAGE ELEMENTS - I don't know.

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Re: Essential Terminology for Engineers: Input Required

09/27/2008 1:52 PM

How about these engineering 'laws'........

THE LAWS OF ULTIMATE REALITY
& Law of Mechanical Repair

After your hands become coated with grease, your nose will
Begin to itch and you'll have to pee.

& Law of Gravity

Any tool, when dropped, will roll to the least accessible corner.

& Law of Probability

The probability of being watched is directly proportional to the stupidity of your act.

& Law of Random Numbers

If you dial a wrong number, you never get a busy signal and
Someone always answers.

& Law of the Alibi

If you tell the boss you were late for work bec au se you had a flat tire, the very next morning you will have a flat tire.

& Variation Law

If you change lines (or traffic lanes), the one you were in will
Always move faster than the one you are in now (works every time).

& Law of the Bath

When the body is fully immersed in water, the telephone rings.

& Law of Close Encounters

The probability of meeting someone you know increases dramatically when you are with someone you don't want to be seen with.

& Law of the Result

When you try to prove to someone that a machine won't work, it will.

& Law of Biomechanics

The severity of the itch is inversely proportional to the reach.

& Law of the Theatre

At any event, the people whose seats are furthest from the aisle arrive last.

& The Starbucks Law

As soon as you sit down to a cup of hot coffee, your boss will ask you to do something which will last until the coffee is cold.

& Murphy's Law of Lockers

If there are only two people in a locker room, they will have adjacent lockers.

& Law of Physical Surfaces

The chances of an open-faced jelly sandwich landing face down on a floor covering are directly correlated to the newness and cost of the carpet/rug.

& Law of Logical Argument

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

& Brown's Law of Physical Appearance

If the shoe fits, it's ugly.

& Oliver's Law of Public Speaking

A closed mouth gathers no feet.

& Wilson ' Wilson 's Law of Commercial Marketing Strategy

As soon as you find a product that you really like, they will stop making it.

& Doctors' Law

If you don't feel well, make an appointment to go to the doctor, by the time you get there you'll feel better. Don't make an appointment and you'll stay sick.

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09/27/2008 4:48 PM

Woodworking law: If you cut a piece of wood, it will always be too short

Cordless drill: If you want to drill a hole, the battery will always quit before you get all the way through.

Glue: When you need just a dab, the glue will be dry.

Wrapping a package: The paper will always be too small, you run out of tape or the twine isn't long enough by a half inch.

Digital cameras: The memory chip is full or the battery is dead.

Card playing: If a card drops out of your hand, it always falls face up for everyone to see, especially when you have a pat hand.

Computers: You spend an hour typing a document, but before you can save it, a power glitch wipes it out.

Someone is always at the door when you are on the phone.

When kids get sick in a car, they never make it out the window.

As soon as you leave home in the car, someone has to go to the bathroom.

The one time you take off from work to attend to business, the business is closed for the day.

Refrigerators, freezers and air conditioners always quit after 5 PM on a Friday.

Gas grills always run out in the middle of a barbecue.

You are watching a mystery on the TV. Just as the plot is going to be revealed, the station has broadcasting difficulties.

When around a car mechanic, place an extra part or screw among his collection of parts to be reinstalled. It will drive him crazy.

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09/27/2008 4:08 PM

six muntz ago i cudent evan say six muntz ago, naw i is a injuneer.

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09/27/2008 4:54 PM

8. THE ENTIRE CONCEPT WILL HAVE TO BE ABANDONED - The only person who understood the thing quit.

Corollary:

WE WILL HAVE TO RETHINK THIS PROJECT - The only person who understood the thing left for a better job, and we have to hire someone else to take over because we have a contract we can't break. Also, my father-in-law owns this company, and if I don't deliver on this project, my wife will cut me off!

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09/27/2008 7:06 PM

Lets take a proactive approach. Well piddle away time and money writing unhelpful e-mails until everyone forgets about this and it goes away.

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09/27/2008 11:08 PM

"Lets take a proactive approach. We'll piddle away time and money writing unhelpful e-mails until everyone forgets about this and it goes away."

I was going to post: "Refuge of last Resort: Peruse the Instruction Phamplet."

But I refuse to do so now. Let's just end this discussion here and now!

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09/27/2008 11:14 PM

My wife is an architect, my daughter is studying architecture, I am a civil engineer and my brother, well, he is a self proclaimed engineer. Pretty damn smart if I must admit it...Anyhow, he despises all architects and most engineers, usually those who do not own a hard hat or work boots. I do not now how famous this is or who penned it, but my brothers favorite is "You can draw an A#@ Hole on paper, but you can't make it s@#t.

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09/28/2008 2:12 PM

"You can draw an A#@ Hole on paper, but you can't make it s@#t."

Are you by any chance refering to the OP.

Looks like an invitation to participate in mass M.M.

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09/27/2008 11:32 PM

My Grand fathers favorites:

I would if I could but I can't so I won't.

People who never do anything never have problems.

If you never start you won't have to finish.

If you had never learned to repair cars you would not have to keep doing it.

That is not a one way wheel barrow.

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10/01/2008 4:05 AM

Why put something off till tomorrow which you can get someone else to do today!

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10/01/2008 6:59 AM

Never put off until tomorrow that which you can avoid doing altogether.

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09/28/2008 12:39 AM

I have the t-shirt this came from. Many more available for engineers of all kinds and competencies from:

http://www.cafepress.com/

And I don't own stock in the company...

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09/28/2008 7:46 AM

24. WE ARE FULLY COMMITTED TO MAINTAINING A DIVERSE WORKFORCE - We base our hiring decisions on race and gender, and not diversity of ideas. Anyone who disagrees with this philosophy is fired.

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09/28/2008 8:27 AM

Thought I would share one more with you...As evident in my previous thread, my brother is not very refined, therefore I typically handle all contact with the customers. Several years ago when we first started consulting, the customers bean counters were questioning our rates and our invoices. After several discussions and not so cordial volleys, and on the brink of offering a discount, my brother piped in in his normal charming way..."Hey, we may be expensive, but at least were slow" After a long pause, all invoices were approved and signed and we spent several more weeks on the project. The controller just couldn't help but feel we were truly sincere after a comment like that.

Also, "Nothing is impossible for the people that do not have to do it"

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09/28/2008 12:57 PM

The teamwork of our employees is the key to our success. As long as we set and hold the due dates they will actually get things done.

The Company needs your input. The HR Department might have missed an idoit please identify yourself.

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09/28/2008 11:43 PM

PEOPLE ORIENTED SOLUTION - We have to dumb this thing down for the masses.

DOWNLOADED UPDATE READY TO INSTALL - It doesn't matter if your system is too small and too slow, we sent you the download automatically, and now your computer will be slower than ever.

INNOVATIVE CONCEPT - We don't know for sure if this thing will work or prove to be of any real benefit, so you're our guinea pig.

PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE - We learned we can charge you more if you think we know what we're doing. Or, we've learned how to use big words to impress gullible but beautiful women.

CONSULTANT - Someone you pay to tell you how to do something you should already know how to do, or someone you bring in temporarily because you're too cheap to hire someone with the right skills and knowledge.

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09/29/2008 2:04 AM

DOWNLOADED UPDATE READY TO INSTALL - It doesn't matter if your system is too small and too slow, we sent you the download automatically, and now your computer will be slower than ever.

And it really doesn't matter how big and fast either; our downloads will always fix what wasn't broken or improve what's working too well...so that they eventually overwhelm you...either your computer or your time wasted trying to fix it after each update is installed. Eventually there will not be enough time to finish one fix before the next improvement comes.

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Doug, Doug, Doug,

Typically I try to avoid confrontational issues, however, it is obvious by your thread that you believe that consultants have neither the "right" skills nor the "knowledge" to be of any substantial use. At this, I must take offense. Let me ask you, have you ever been a staff engineer who has crashed into the proverbial glass ceiling only to realize at fifty that there are no more vertical movements? Have you ever been indirectly asked to compromise your engineering integrity by a bean counter or a sales exec. for the sake of the companies bottom line? Have you ever longed for the luxury to pursue other interest beyond your nine to five routine that is punishable by most standards? These are the circumstances that breed consultants. Caged birds, whose skills demand the opportunity to fly, however circumstances dictate otherwise. Individuals whom pursued a career only to find that the career is far from what they had anticipated. Consultants provide a service where a service is needed. Not every small company can afford a corporate engineering Juggernaut for every pump, valve, foundation, VFD, etc, etc. Consultants provide a service to many a companies, for one reason or another, and I am sure, for the most part, that it is not for being cheap. Consultants look to expand there professional horizons by tackling objectives that they may not otherwise have the opportunity to tackle, especially when you spend forty hours behind four walls. Consultants look for opportunities within their fields that allow them to grow both as individuals as well as professionally. Consultants look for oppurtunities where their service can make the difference between failure and success of a small business that may be to "CHEAP" to hire someone with the proper credentials. Consultants look for an admirable way to provide for their families while pursuing interest that they otherwise may not have the opportunity to pursue. Look, I have been a staff engineer, a project leader, went back to school for my MBA, been a consultant and now own by own business. I can know sooner frown on a consultant, as I can on an ignoramus, who wholeheartedly characterizes an entire group of individuals. Imagine a world without the benefit of consultants, for the love of god, every business whether big or small, would either have to hire an engineer that has the personality of a platypus or seek services from organization that farm out talent that is no more capable of performing basic functions than your average co-op... And charge a pretty penny for such. So please, spare me the inequity when it comes to your obvious bias towards consultants. I wish you the best in your nine to five doldrums where you obviously seek opportunities to respond to this site with the whole hearted intent of accelerating the clock by which you are tethered. God Speed

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09/30/2008 8:28 AM

"I can know sooner frown on a consultant, as I can on an ignoramus, who wholeheartedly characterizes an entire group of individuals. Imagine a world without the benefit of consultants, for the love of god, every business whether big or small, would either have to hire an engineer that has the personality of a platypus or seek services from organization that farm out talent that is no more capable of performing basic functions than your average co-op..."

There are two sayings that leap to mind. One involves a pot and a kettle, the other stones and glass houses. Take your pick...

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What I found interesting was that there was so little actual disagreement between the two posts...

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09/30/2008 10:19 AM

Great minds think alike? Small minds think the same?............hmmmmm

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Two minds with but a single thought, perhaps? Collectively speaking, of course...

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09/30/2008 2:51 PM

You misunderstood my comment. It was not a knock on consultants, but a knock on those who hire consultants when they don't really need to, or they are too cheap to hire someone full-time to bring in needed skills and knowledge.

Because of your misunderstanding my comment and the poor compostion of your post, I question whether or not your clients are getting their money's worth. Surely someone who knows more than a software installation support technician and drafter with 2 associate degrees does a better job for his clients than he did in your post.

BTW, this was supposed to a humerous thread, and no matter how much the humor might reflect some truth, it should still be taken in the spirit in which it is offered. In other words: LIGHTEN UP, BUDDY! It's just a joke!

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10/01/2008 12:32 PM

I thought CR4 was an engineering site. When did the drafters take over? Why do they hate Consultants?

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10/01/2008 12:56 PM

They don't HATE consultants, they just don't understand them...

CONSULTANT - any guy with a laptop computer in his briefcase working more than 50 miles away from home.

COMMUTER - the same guy working less than 50 miles away from home.

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10/01/2008 9:49 PM

As noted previously, the consultant is the guy you hire to take the blame. I am a consultant, so I speak with some authority. The key here is that the consultant needs to be aware of this going in, and needs sharper skills than those that have called him...

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10/02/2008 10:03 AM

There are two types of consultants. One is the person you go to when you lack the expertice to do something yourself. They are a good and necessary part of business.

The other is the person you go to when you know what you want, but you want a disinterested third party to agree with you. This type, usually a business consultant rather than a technical one, is the person who tells management that their personel problems are the result of a few antisocial employees instead of the pointy-haired boss of Dilbert fame, or that they are paying their employees exactly what they deserve, even though all salary surveys show that the standard pay is 50% higher.

The second group is the one we usually think of when we dis consultants.

(I don't fit either catagory, but am closer to the first.)

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And I always thought the consultant was the guy you hired to take the blame...

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09/29/2008 11:24 AM

PORTABLE - Presuming it is loaded on a trailer already.

"Mistakes have been made - others will be blamed."

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09/29/2008 4:24 PM

As an Engineer, I don't see the glass half full or half empty... Just too much glass for the amount of liquid it needs to hold.

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09/29/2008 4:38 PM

After a complete review we decided to redesign the product. Meaning: We finally listened to the Engineers.

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09/30/2008 3:48 PM

My apologies to all...One Scotch to many I guess. Especially to DUCKINTHEPOND for ruining the good spirit of his post and to you 3Doug for my being confrontational. Lets all continue to enjoy the site. I should have known better.

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A round on the house, then, to settle any hard feelings!

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S'alright........I've always maintained there's nothing wrong with sobriety in moderation...........

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Ahh...good lad! Have a snort on me!

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Thankyou sir. That is a fine whisky!

This is a great scotch (Bunnahabhain 25)!

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I'll pass on the hard stuff. And since I never developed a taste for beer, I'll just settle for a diet soda suicide.

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Rare stuff, that!

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Re: Essential Terminology for Engineers: Input Required

10/01/2008 2:32 PM

DRAFTER: What many engineers and architects used to be; someone who documents designs by drawing accurate (and sometimes impressive) images; someone in a position to learn both the theory and practice of science; someone who develops the capability to visually analyze things because he or she spends time looking at lines, shapes and angles.

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