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Alternatives to Mechanical Encoders

09/28/2008 3:57 PM

Recently I posed a question titled "Replicating an Encoder" in which I asked for and received a lot of valued support in identifying the optical encoders in an existing system. The purpose in asking was so I could replicate the encoder environment elsewhere.

This new string is similar in that I again wish to measure angular movement with precision but without using conventional optical encoders and the gearing mechanisms they require.

The idea that this might be easy came to me while I was using a digital vernier.

Obviously, there is no lack of precision in that environment which apparently uses some magnetic method for calculating changes in registration.

This is not an Optical or a Bar Code environment either, as I once suspected as many of my verniers have nothing on the surface of the moving slide. This suggests a magnetic sensing system.

You are all familiar with them, I am sure.

The question is simply this:

if I

1.> can wrap a similar magnetic strip onto the surface of a degree wheel of a rotating shaft, such as on a telescope. . . .

2.> position the "reader" above it as is done on digital verniers

Is it practical to attempt to translate that information into a digital readout that displays absolute movement in degrees, minutes and seconds of angle from some baseline or fixed datum?

What words do I use when using a search engine to find these devices?

Are these considered linear encoders?

What I find interesting is that all the verniers I use will shut off automatically when not in use but will still know exactly where they are when awakened.

That's not something possible with optical encoders used in telescopes now which must be reset using at least two known targets.

Thanks

L.J.

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Re: Alternatives to mechanically driven encoders

09/28/2008 6:31 PM

A digitizer uses a grid of wires that is activated by a coil (Pugh or stylise) held in proximity.

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Re: Alternatives to mechanically driven encoders

09/28/2008 9:10 PM

From what I understand most digital calipers use a linear encoder that is based on variable capacitance.

There are non-contact encoders out there that might get close to what you are after. I have used the siko unit and it is pretty slick. A flexible strip that is stuck on and a straight-forward sensor. I used the translation unit and its output was essentially the same as a typical encoder when I put it to my plc.

Take a look at this: http://www.sikoproducts.com/pdf/catalog-MagLine_Basic_Absolute.pdf

The sensing might be the simple item... you would still need to reliably convert the signal to suit your requirements.

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Re: Alternatives to mechanically driven encoders

09/28/2008 11:47 PM

Thanks switchman!

I took a look. Hopefully their output is suare wave (digital)

I'll do a more in depth study in the AM

L.J.

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Re: Alternatives to mechanically driven encoders

09/29/2008 12:02 AM

I am not sure if this will help--The optical encoders we use are actually roto pulsers, proper. The ones we use have one reset(512 or 1024) and know which direction they are turning, but not where they are--a PLC or something else has to keep count.

Absolute Encoders--may have to start moving, but know where they are once they do.

Servos?

Syncros?

Tempo sonic probes?

Ultra sonics?

Cheers---

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Re: Alternatives to Mechanical Encoders

09/29/2008 8:46 PM

If you're only measuring a small angle you may be able to use an "extension transducer". Celesco make one type.

It's, in principle, a pot with a string and spring wound around the shaft, pull the string and the pot turns, relax the string and the pot winds back.

They're a very useful gadget.

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Re: Alternatives to Mechanical Encoders

09/30/2008 10:43 PM

I wish to thank all of you for responding as you did. I've much homework to do but I have what I need to direct my study.

Thanks again for the generous support

L. J.

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