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radius dimensions on structural angle stock

09/30/2008 11:33 AM

Looking for mechanical dimensions for structural steel angle stock. Can find each leg and thickness, but cannot find information on radii and am concerned about having enough room for my hardware.

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Re: radius dimensions on structural angle stock

09/30/2008 8:38 PM

It is not that simple:

Excerpt from ASTM A6/6M

12.3.1 Annex A2 lists the designations and dimensions, in
both inch-pound and SI units, of shapes that are most commonly
available. Radii of fillets and toes of shape profiles vary
with individual manufacturers and therefore are not specified.

Excerpt taken from AISC Manual of Steel Construction

In calculating the theoretical weights, properties, and dimensions of the rolled shapes
listed in Part 1 of this Manual, fillets and roundings have been included for all shapes
except angles. Because of differences in fillet radii among producers, actual properties of rolled shapes may vary slightly from those tabulated. Dimensions for detailing are generally based on the largest theoretical-size fillets produced.

Equal leg and unequal leg angle (L) shapes of the same nominal size available from
different producers have profiles which are essentially the same, except for the size of fillet between the legs and the shape of the ends of the legs.
The k distance given in the tables for each angle is based on the theoretical largest size fillet available. Availability of certain angles is subject to rolling accumulation and geographical location, and should be checked with material suppliers.

If you give a more specific shape(s) I can give you the maximum 'k' distance as per this manual.

If you need to be more accurate you will need to check with your supplier.

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Re: radius dimensions on structural angle stock

10/01/2008 7:24 AM

Thank you for your answer. I was afraid it wouldn't be easy as I was aware that ASTM A6 left radii unspecified. One of my problems is that I do not have access to any of the industry standard specifications at this job and they are too expensive for me to buy them on my own.

I anticipate using either 6 x 4 x 7/8 or 6 x 6 x 1 angle stock. If you could give me the largest radius, then I can design to this as the worst case.

I did also email the suppliers, but was hoping there was some info available on the internet for me to use in the meantime.

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Re: radius dimensions on structural angle stock

10/01/2008 8:49 AM

Note these dimensions are not just the fillet radius - they are taken from the outside flat of the leg to the end of the curvature (to the tangent) of the other leg.

6x6x1" = 1-1/2"

6x4x7/8 = 1-3/8"

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Re: radius dimensions on structural angle stock

10/01/2008 9:03 AM

Thank you, again.

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Re: radius dimensions on structural angle stock

10/01/2008 10:14 AM

Typicaly the radius on the toe is 1/2 the thickness and the radius between the legs is 1 material thickness.

So, if it's an L2x2x1/4 the toe radius is 1/8" and the crotch radius is 1/4". It may vary a bit from one mill to the other but that has served me well over the years.

Travis

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10/01/2008 10:26 AM

Travis,

That is exactly the kind of information I was interested in, a good rule of thumb based on experience.

Lynn

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10/01/2008 11:25 AM

So are you saying that the crotch radius of a 6x6x1" will be 1"?

Seems a little high - I would suspect it to be closer to 1/2" - much like what the AISC manual states.

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Re: radius dimensions on structural angle stock

10/01/2008 12:34 PM

Easiest way to find out is to go measure one.

I have found what is in the steel book (the AISC manual) is not always what gets rolled.

Travis

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