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I-Beam Load Limit

10/06/2008 6:58 PM

I have an I beam of 100mm x 50mm x 5mm web. (4" x 2" x 0.2") this is 2m (6'6") long. I wish to use this to carry a trolley and chain hoist to lift various items more or less in the form of an engine hoist as used in vehicle repair before hydraulic lifts were available. It will be supported by a tripod at each end.

I know it will take 350kg (770lbs) as I have used it in a situation where there were no safety issues. I now want to use it where a failure could be dangerous and would certainly be expensive. This is building (low) grade steel.

Can anyone help?

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Re: I beam load limit

10/06/2008 7:43 PM

The lightest 100mm I Beam I can find is S100x11. It has a flange width of 68mm, a mean flange thickness of 7.4mm and a web thickness of 4.9mm. For a span of 2m, a Grade 50 beam has a factored moment resistance of 18.3 kn-m which means it has a failure load of 36.6 kN or about 8,200# applied vertically at the center of the beam.

Using a load factor of 4, this beam could carry 2,000# safely.

Your beam has a narrower flange width, an unknown flange thickness and an unknown yield point. The cost of a new beam with known properties is a mere pittance compared to the cost of collapse, so why not buy a new beam and be done with it?

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10/07/2008 7:07 PM

Thanks ba-el.

The web on my beam is 6.5mm.

Our problem is that the rig must be easily manually portable and so kept as light as possible.

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10/07/2008 8:35 PM

You must decide on the maximum load you are going to lift. Then you can select the lightest beam possible to safely sustain that load. My recommendation is to buy the lightest beam consistent with the capacity of your hoist. To use an existing beam with unknown properties is false economy (my opinion).

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10/08/2008 12:47 PM

I assume this is a simply supported beam, not fixed at the ends. Don't forget to include the weight of the trolley and hoist with your working load.

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Re: I-Beam Load Limit

10/08/2008 7:27 AM

for a span of 2m, carrying a point load calculated at PL/4, I can't imagine even a pre-A36 mild steel beam of the dimensions you indicate having any failure event. Deflection may be another issue, but even deflection shouldn't present you with iminent failure. I'm more worried about this tripod support arrangement, potential rotation of the beam under load and collapse of everything (except the beam).

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10/08/2008 1:42 PM

Another approach is to load test the existing beam and tripods in a safe location where there would be no damage if the beam fails. Then, applying an appropriate load factor, you would have confidence that the beam would perform adequately in any location.

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Re: I-Beam Load Limit

10/08/2008 6:27 PM

my friend

to carry anything you need to have some pully and wire or chain as according to your mentioned weight you may need 3-4 pully fix every two on the same access and fix the wire first end to the rod beside the upper pully then around the lower one and take it to the around the second upper one and around the second lower one you may be able to carry that load by your pair hands if not increase another pully on the two access " upper and lower " it is the same idea the cranes work , of course it has some calculation to estimate the type of the pully and its dimention and the distance beteen the upper and the lower rod carrying the upper and lower pullyes but the 350 kg is too low and that may help you

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