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Rail Waste Companies and Systems

10/13/2008 6:00 PM

What Transfer Stations use rail? What are the pros & cons? Where I live in Orange County NC, USA, they are going to close the landfill, and open another place called a Transfer Station. Where the Landfill is currently is very near a railroad spur. The State of NC owns the State railways via the NC Railroad Company. I imagine sorting and compacting maintained at the current landfill for train transport to an appropriate facility. Who does this, and where, and if it is not done, why not? P.S. Tried to post this question prior, but apparently did not succeed. Check of Wikipedia did not produce a story other than one about Portland Oregon, which implied trucking jobs would be lost if such a system was adopted.

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10/14/2008 1:30 PM

Obviously, a transfer station where they plan to transport the waste a long distance away from the stations, since local transfers within about 50 miles would not be cost effective unless you had huge quantities of commercial/industrial wastes that were consistently supplied (which might make something slightly less than 50 miles a better distance). The Grarbage trucks would still have to deliver the waste to the transfer station. In your case though, since the transfer station is replacing a LF, there would not be a loss of long haul trucking,since the waste is not currently being shipped out overland by Truck from the landfill. Once the transfer station is developed you would need some means to haul the waste from the station to a landfill, which could mean long haul trucking or rail. For great distances and large consistent volumes rail is way more cost effective, but you don't gain the additional labor force you would have with trucking. In essence, in those cases it becomes a trucking subsidy by providing unnecessary jobs and costing the tax payers additional. however, in most cases the waste is only hauled about 25 miles from transfer stations to a central landfill location. In which case, the building of rail infrastructure and the use of rail to deliver waste from numerous outlying transfer stations is not cost effective.

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10/14/2008 11:45 PM

Usually the people who burn garbage to produce electric power use rail.

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10/15/2008 4:23 PM

Most currently proposed designs for waste to energy plants are siting them next to central landfill facilities or wastewater treatment plants. This eliminates need for long distance transport, eliminates the need for long distance transport of certain wastes back to a landfill, and can potentially head off many of the siting problems that arise during the EIR process (Since modern landfills themselves are usually extensively investigated). They can in essence piggy back on much of the existing landfill permitting information and reduce costs associated with additional infrastructure and support facilities. Of course the potential problems in the EIR process assume the State where the facility is sited actively enforces their environmental laws and the process. Obviously a certain level of money can buy you a pass in many States to any EIR process or facilities siting/environmental laws, and the Federal government has a committy agreement in their laws to accept State EIR process (unless they find some gross violations).

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10/15/2008 3:54 AM

Google "Waste management".

WM does nearly everything involved w/ waste stream production.

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10/15/2008 8:33 AM

Seattle uses rail to trasport virtually all of its waste to a landfill in Eastern Washington near the town of Republic WA. The company that operates the landfill is Robanco. You might want to contact the City of Seattle Municipal Dept.

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10/15/2008 11:33 AM

Companies like Waste Management, collect recyclable materials such as plastics, metals and paper, bail and send to facilities that recycle the waste. Some of these facilities may be far away, in which case, rail may be the most cost effective way to go. Landfills deal with household garbage only, some of which can be burned to generate electricity.

Waste management has been around a long time. Other developed countries have done this long before we did. Now that the disposal of waste has become a monumental problem, the trend is to recycle as much as possible. Landfills are necessary, but they must be operated in a responsible fashion. Only materials that will break down should be put into a landfill, but unfortunately, materials that don't break down, like plastics and aluminum also get tossed. Toxic materials, like batteries, paints, insecticides also ge tossed into landfills.

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10/17/2008 9:24 AM

Please give us a look. A Transfer Station / Recycling Center is very doable. We power our entire operation from the methane we capture from the capped landfill. Keene, NH Mike

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