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Temp Rise of Exhaust Steam While Condensing

10/29/2008 8:25 AM

We have a 22MW DEC TG Set running at 17MW load. The exhaust steam temp entering condenser is 37 0 C. The condensate temp is 42 0C. Why there is an increase of 5 0C while condensation takes place?

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Re: Temp Rise of Exhaust Steam While Condensing

10/29/2008 10:57 AM

Are you talking about steam or do you mean condensate?

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Re: Temp Rise of Exhaust Steam While Condensing

10/29/2008 9:11 PM

i am telling about the temperature of the exhaust steam coming out of the turbine and the temperature of the condensate in the hot well pl.

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Re: Temp Rise of Exhaust Steam While Condensing

10/30/2008 5:41 AM

What pressure do you measure in the condensor?

At 1 atm, anything over 100C would be causc to check calibrations. (could you be set at degF?)

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Re: Temp Rise of Exhaust Steam While Condensing

10/29/2008 5:42 PM

Need to know where and how the temperature readings are being made to determine if they make sense. Sounds to me like bad temperature readings...

Particularly how are you measuring exhaust steam temperature? Are you sure you are not reading exhaust hood temp? Getting an accurate exhaust steam temperatue on a condensing turbine is a pretty difficult trick.

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Re: Temp Rise of Exhaust Steam While Condensing

10/29/2008 10:48 PM

Latent heat of condensation. When the water vapor condenses, it give up a packet of heat to the surrounding media.

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Re: Temp Rise of Exhaust Steam While Condensing

10/29/2008 11:56 PM

That is assuming that the temperature measurements are accurate.....

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10/30/2008 5:36 AM

Yes, it gives up heat. But as you go thru phase change, the temperature remains constant. That's why it's called 'Latent', (meaning: "hidden")

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Re: Temp Rise of Exhaust Steam While Condensing

10/30/2008 1:28 AM

check the calibration of meters...

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Re: Temp Rise of Exhaust Steam While Condensing

10/30/2008 2:11 AM

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Re: Temp Rise of Exhaust Steam While Condensing

10/30/2008 6:48 AM

I agree that you need to check your temperature instruments, but also look at where you are taking the temperature of the condensate. Is it right on the outlet of the condenser or is it after the pump? What is the pressure difference across the pump? The temperature will only remain constant if the pressure is also constant. You can also check the pressure of the exhaust steam with the temperature and compare it to the steam tables to find an error in the temperature instrument in the steam exhaust.

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Re: Temp Rise of Exhaust Steam While Condensing

10/30/2008 7:23 AM

If the temperature measurements are accurate, perhaps you have other steam/condensate coming into the condenser near your measurement points. You have some good advise, and things to look over and check out. Instrument calibration is a potential problem. Compare the condenser pressure with the saturation pressure at the condenser temperature. This should offer some additional clues to perhaps muddy up the water. There is more than meets the eye here.

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Re: Temp Rise of Exhaust Steam While Condensing

10/30/2008 8:25 AM

Hello ramaswamysrinivasan:

With regard to the sensors taking the readings...........are they insulated from the metal around them, or is it possible they are measuring the temperature of the local steel? From the sound of it there is either something extra exuding to make the rise in temp', or that sensor which has the higher reading is faulty, that is, as long as the pressure is constant. Are you tacking 'peak' temps or constant?

take care..............

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Re: Temp Rise of Exhaust Steam While Condensing

10/30/2008 9:39 AM

What about flash steam?

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