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Substitute for Phenol Formaldehyde (Thermoset Plastic)

10/30/2008 1:03 PM

Hello friends.

Can you please suggest a thermoplastic thats can replace a thermoset plastic (phenol formaldehyde) part.

Application is for electrical terminal holder.

terminal voltage is 230VAC.

Max operating temp is 60Deg C.

Max temp rise observed is 65Deg C

Biggest concern is meltdown,and burn out protection in the condition of short circuit.
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Re: Substitute for Phenol Formaldehyde (Thermoset Plastic)

10/30/2008 11:29 PM

There are thermosetting polyesters that are used for plates and bowls and are microwaveable and dishwasher safe. They also have an appropriate hardness. I don't know about the electrical properties.

If you don't find something, I can ask my customer who does compression molding for the name of the manufacturer. If you need prototypes, that is a service that I can also provide.

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Re: Substitute for Phenol Formaldehyde (Thermoset Plastic)

10/31/2008 12:01 AM

Thanks for your post.

But we are looking for a thermoplastic that can replace thermoset plastic with out too much compromising on quality.
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10/31/2008 9:17 AM

There is company in India by Name Global Applied Materials. There manufacturing facility is in chennai and they have product which is based on acetate polymeric thermoplastic and works beautiful for my electrical application. It has good properties up to 200C and is reworkable. If you need further information feel free to send email directly to me and I will provide you contact informations.

Masyood Akhtar Ph.D.

Email Masyood@gamil.com

Cell +1 617-777-5363

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Re: Substitute for Phenol Formaldehyde (Thermoset Plastic)

10/30/2008 11:38 PM

Bamboo.

Give us part Drawing-we will replicate.Any Quantity/Volt/Amp

Burns out at 300°C+

www.assambambooworld.com
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Re: Substitute for Phenol Formaldehyde (Thermoset Plastic)

11/01/2008 11:39 AM

Hello,

Can you please elaborate, As i am not able to understand how this can work in bamboo?

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Re: Substitute for Phenol Formaldehyde (Thermoset Plastic)

10/31/2008 6:14 AM

PBT (Poly butylene terepthalate) or Polycarbonate already in the said use, which you ask for.

Grades most suitable for electrical application are already used by all major players in India

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Re: Substitute for Phenol Formaldehyde (Thermoset Plastic)

11/01/2008 11:36 AM

Hi,

Thank you for suggestion.

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Re: Substitute for Phenol Formaldehyde (Thermoset Plastic)

10/31/2008 9:22 AM

India makes replacement based on acetate thermoset polymeric material which performs better than Phenolic Formaldehyde. Its use temperature is less than200C and is only draw back I have seen.

The company who makes this is in Chennai India and name of the Company is Global Applied Materials. The product is syringe dispensible type which we have and have with varying dielectric constant and they have this with dielectric as well as conductor paste. If any one needs I can provide further information

Masyood Akhtar Ph.D.

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11/01/2008 11:34 AM

Hi, Masyood,

Thank you for your reply.

I shell write an email to you in this regards.

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Re: Substitute for Phenol Formaldehyde (Thermoset Plastic)

10/31/2008 10:14 AM

Yes, urea formaldehyde

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10/31/2008 10:39 AM

No change for us. thats thermosetting plastic again.
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10/31/2008 3:15 PM

Point taken, I hadn't spotted you are looking for a thermoplastic.

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Re: Substitute for Phenol Formaldehyde (Thermoset Plastic)

11/01/2008 11:47 AM

Hi,

What is suggested PBT or black Polycarbonate is mostly used by many electrical companies.

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Chan Lucie

Incidentally I am from Chennai :)
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