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Can Sesame Oil Dissolve Completely in Water?

12/01/2008 10:46 AM

I saw a magic thing from a company who is selling the alkaline water product by demonstration, adding a few drops of sesame oil into the "alkaline water", and sesame oil immediately dissolved into the water and disappeared. Usually oil and water can not be dissolved together. Then the merchant claiming that the alkaline water is good for body, because it can carry all the saturated fat and toxic stuff out from the body because of the good solvent effect of alkaline water. Anybody can explain this?

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12/01/2008 11:48 AM

I have heard that foods that are alkaline are better for you. Then looking at the list of food stuffs said to be alkaline. Maybe that the foods on the list are just better for you has nothing to do with pH.

Now we are going to drop alkaline water into container full of acid and say its better for you? Just drink plenty of fresh water as we are intended to and not have worry about the introduction of more chemicals.

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12/01/2008 11:56 AM

Are you sure it wasn't snake oil?

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12/01/2008 1:32 PM

I do not think it's the snake oil, because they were making this show to compare a few kind of water, i.e. normal tap water, RO water and alkaline water, and, of course, only alkaline water show the magic result.

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12/01/2008 7:07 PM

The snake oil to which I was referring was coming from the mouth of the salesperson. It's a scam - probably based on slight of hand. Did they drink the water (from the same vessel) before and after addition of the sesame oil? It should have been harmless.

I'd go for the detergent idea (ref. #3, The JMAN) - but I wouldn't drink it!

"They also claim that the crystal can create energy to cure people and anti-aging too" - this is just a bit more snake oil - AKA absolute bollocks.

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12/01/2008 1:15 PM

mikechiu,

What is the pH of the "alkaline water" claimed to be be?

What process is used to manufacture this "magical" water?

I doubt that the sesame oil actually dissolved into the solution. It is more likely emulsified into many very small droplets.

Try dropping some oil into a container of water that has a small amount of dishwashing detergent dissolved into it. The oil will break down and appear to disappear...

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Now, with respect to this alkaline water being "good for the body", I strongly doubt that drinking alkaline water would be a waste of money.

Basic human physiology:

The gastric juice inside a person's stomach is highly acidic - typically in the range from a pH of 1 to a pH of 3.

While I'm not a physiologist, or a chemist for that matter, I would think that adding a slightly alkaline aqueous solution to a strongly acidic solution would result in instantly negating the alkalinity, while possibly slightly increasing the pH via neutralization and dilution. But I think that the stomach would immediately secrete more acid, to maintain the "proper" gastric pH...

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Just my $0.02...

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12/01/2008 1:43 PM

Below link is the manufacturer. I think their pH in the range of 7.5-9.0

http://www.judo.eu/judo/EN/Produktinfos/Produktuebersicht/Wellness/JUWEL.php

They also claim that the crystal can create energy to cure people and anti-aging too.

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12/01/2008 2:04 PM

Just eat a couple Rolaids, or drink an Alka-Seltzer. Probably much cheaper.

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12/01/2008 2:09 PM

I really do not believe the alkaline water. However, some people indeed being amazed by the sesame oil test. And, I could not explain and understand why?

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12/01/2008 2:12 PM

I live in a dolomite area with alkaline water.(Mg & CaCO3.) It is not that good (I think) and even with a PH of 12 it does not help for heartburn.

I am not an expert but it seems to aggravate the formation of kidney stones and prostrate calcification.

The next crowd may come along with electrodes and show you what you are actually dunking and sell you a expensive filter.

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12/01/2008 2:22 PM

That is true, if the pH level up to 12, it is a kind of pollution and heavily contaminated water, do not drink it.

I had come across with the so call electrodes rods test, which is for sure scam and most people knowing that already.

However, I still want to how does the sesame oil test work on the so-called alkaline water (good water) in the chemical or scientific way.

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12/01/2008 2:49 PM

The solubility of many plant compounds depends on pH. Other than that, I suspect they rigged the test very carefully so that the effect was exaggerated.

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12/01/2008 2:56 PM

I agree most cheater are very clever and try to find way to cheat people. But.....still no way to find out why???? Sesame oil???

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12/01/2008 3:15 PM

What exactly are you looking for? How much background education do you have in chemistry. Would you like some links to some papers on this subject? They're very technical.

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12/01/2008 7:49 PM

I am a certified water specialist but have not much background education in chemistry. It will be very helpful if you can provide me more information (even very technical) on this scam, if you agree.

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12/01/2008 3:36 PM

Maybe the dissolved chalk is acting like blotting paper.

I have some raw linseed oil (used on my grandsonś cricket bat) and I will try it tomorrow. I will even buy some sesame oil and try it.

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12/02/2008 3:31 AM

I have tried sesame oil and add into normal tap water, oil floating on the surface of course. Cannot be dissolved.

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12/01/2008 7:56 PM
  1. Sesame oil is edible. In fact, it's regarded as a healthier alternative to meat-based oil like lard or suet. And it adds a pleasant fragrance to hot food too.
  2. Alkalis do dissolve oil. That's why they're often used for degreasing.
  3. You don't need to drink alkaline water to remove fat from your body. Your liver secretes bile, an alkali, to aid in fat digestion.
  4. If you really must remove fat from your food, either don't eat fatty food or take Xenical (under medical supervision of course).
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12/02/2008 12:49 AM

Drain cleaner - Drano(TM) - works this way. Also sodium hyroxide.

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12/02/2008 1:03 AM

hello everyone, anecdotal info.

i could see that having water a little alkaline could be beneficial. this is because almost everyone in the United States has an acid blood condition from poor diet. this acid blood condition leads to many really serious illnesses. diabetes, heart disease, vascular disease. blood should be neutral in Ph. in most people it is acidic. the body pulls potassium from the inter cellular fluid to make up for this and then replaces it with sodium. the body really doesn't like that condition.

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12/02/2008 1:47 AM

This is the same type of "garbage" one hears and reads all the time from snake oil peddlers everywhere....... The thing that is most surprising is how can the general public remain so gullible for year after year. "As P. T. Barnum of Barnum and Bailey Carnival fame once said, "There is a fool born every moment".

This goes for those who sell... "Corral Calcium","Gut cleaners".EDTA to reduce blood deposits,etc,etc...... and especially those who state that, "It is patented, so you know we can not be wrong"....... Nothing short of bull shit.......We are all nothing more than highly complex biochemical process organisms......I have never understood why those who are well recognized by their peers in the medical professions (I read their reviews everyday) have not made an effort to rid society of these scam artists who prey on the ignorant.

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12/02/2008 3:35 AM

Totally agreed with what you said. That's why I want to know what kind of tricks (on the scientific explanation) they are doing on their experiment about sesame oil vs their "water"?!

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12/02/2008 11:16 AM

i read those articles everyday, hmm very interesting and as far as what is published for you to read most accurate.

however when did you read a copy of a book that will support your position that if i can repeat what has been seen in other postings that may of those super health improvers e.g. this magic water are snake oil sellers, and bullshit artists then the book i suggest you read if you can get your hands on a copy of is - the omega3 connection by dr. cosmas ho- apprently he did such a good job in taking on those doctors who supprt both traditional and the snake oil sellers alike, that that both groups got so ticked off with his telling the trutha bout fats and water healing treatments that they joined together with the state of ontario government and had him kicked out of there. apparently he now works as a family doctor in the state of newfoundland. ;da ber

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12/03/2008 6:02 AM

barfnagler,

i have another example. my favorite herbal medicine book is "Back to Eden", by Dr. herman Hess. from the 1930's. he was kicked out of the AMA because he claimed that HE COULD CURE CANCER WITH DIET. well, guess what, science has finally caught up with the late dr hess, and realizes that he was right. i don't think the AMA ever formally apologized and i don't expect them ever to do so. they still don't like the idea that something besides pharmacopia can cure people. that is because they treat symptoms, not disease. doctors whince when i tell them that my opinion of a doctors job is to keep you alive long enough for the body to heal itself.

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12/02/2008 9:29 AM

In addition to the above suggestions and/or try to increase the temperature and see if it works ---------I have seen many chemicals having their solubility and miscibility enhanced when the temperature is increased

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01/01/2009 8:05 AM

I tried this out by putting a couple of drops of sesame seed oil into water and into a glass which had been previously had a small amount of dish washing detergent added.

The oil floated on the water, but "dissolved" in the detergent contaminated water.

I suspect this is what was done.

To dissolve oil in alkaline water needs quite a high pH.

I also tried it in a solution of bicarb soda. The oil floated.

This stuff doesn't dissolve theoil because of it's alkalinity, which makes it highly likely to be a scam.

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02/24/2010 9:02 AM

Amazing!! What substance will cause oil to instantly dissolve in water? I once used a Dermitage sample skin care product called something like 'prewash' which seemed to be a light oil, yet when you rinsed your face it emulsified instantly. I wondered what they might have put in the oil and how, and stumbled on to this perfect question. Alas, something like 18 responses later, only two even ATTEMPT to answer the actual question. The rest instead admonish, pontificate, and moralize. Science??? Hilarious. For his question, the guy got a bunch of 'bromides.' I'll continue my search.

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i hope to dissolve oil of black seed (negalla stiva) in bacteriological media agar but how can dissolve that in media or water

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