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01/10/2009 1:22 AM

can anybody suggest, guide , design for making of dishwasher for home. i searched lot on net. But i really need guidence from persons in the same field. also, one more query - does commercially available dishwashers clean the aluminium pots/pans? [pl. refer to indian conditions] is it possible to clean the pots by only cold water & dishwasher liquid in dish washer?

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01/10/2009 4:25 AM

Dish washers are basically just a spray of water and chemical, they have no mechanical washing action, so the bigest problem is to make sure your jets of water reach all the plates/pots/cutlery etc.
The problem with cold water is.
a) it doesn't clean as well, as the conductivity of cold water is much lower than hot water and this is a vital part of the chemistry of the cleaning process (some commercial dishwahers use coductivity measurement to control the detergent level).
b) the plates etc will not dry so quickly, (rinse aid will helf the water run off.)

The Aluminium question, if the correct chemical composition of detergent is used then aluminium pots and pans can be washed and cold water can be used.

I design dosing equipment for commercial dishwashers, and I have often been to sites where the detergent is not being added for some reason (the drum is empty), if the plates are take immediately from the kitchen, rinsed to romove large particles and immediately put into the dishwasher the results are generally perfectly good, the hot water has done the job!
Bear in mind a commercial dishwasher has powerfull spray jets using pumped water and a cycle time of a few minutes where a domestic machine has a cycle time of an hour or so.

I hope this helps, let us know how your project progresses.
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01/12/2009 3:28 AM

Than you for your reply. i got good suggestions from your reply. i will discuss time to time regarding my project progress. Present status is in design & sketch phase. also, one more query, is it possible to use rotary brushes for manual precleaning process [ which i seen in dairy ind. for cleaning the milk cans]? So that further cleaning is in ease.

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01/12/2009 3:42 AM

Hi,
Any pre-cleaning process could be used.
The problem is will it be used? I've seen kitchens where the training and use of equipment is perfect, but very many where they employ the cheapest possible labour and they don't really know what they are doing with the equipment.
I guess the operatives think...
'We have an automatic dishwasher here, so why do I need to do this manual pre-clean?'

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01/12/2009 9:58 AM

I would suggest the precleaning process that I have used for the last few years, with much success.

  • Find a dog wandering the streets.
  • When meals are finished, allow the dog to lick the plates clean.
  • Store the dishes in this condition, it is a well known fact that dog's tongue kill all bacteria, so the dishes are ready for next use.

You will not have to buy dog food, or worry about storing leftovers, Once the dog gets used to the regular feedings, you will have a security system for free.

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01/12/2009 10:06 AM

You could utilize an automated brush-action cycle to the process. Keep in mind that automated brushing will require that the brush must come in contact with each piece to be cleaned and that each piece to be cleaned will need to be fastened securely to prevent damaging the piece.

This will probably increase the size of the machine. Possibly, you could have a miniature version of an automated carwash (See www.hannahcarwash.com) where you would scrub the dishes in one operation, and wash/sanitize them in a second operation.

Are you sure this has not been done before? Have you explored dishmachine and ware washer manufacturers in the culinary field as well as in the laboratory field?

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01/12/2009 9:43 AM

Come on Dell, your home dishwasher is Mrs. Cat. Female felines, as well as female humans, have typically evolved over the centuries to have smaller paws and feet. This is so they can get closer to the stove,sink and dishwasher.

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01/10/2009 7:31 AM

There are in line devices to heat water on demand that can be utilized in your design. Also in most home dishwashers there are heat elements used for the drying cycle. The lower element sets in the sump at the bottom if it is not already being used as such. It could be set to heat the water and maintain the temperature during the wash cycle.

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01/11/2009 9:32 AM

I have good friends from India and Bangladesh, I hope I can assist you. With almost 30 years designing Building Plumbing Systems, I have considrable experience working with commercial and residential dishmachines. You inquiry about cold water makes me suspect that you may not have the luxury of electricity as it is experienced in some other parts of the world. My friend from India once told me of the luxuy of "DRY" clothes, due to electricity. Even a gas drier needs electricity to turn the drum.

One of the other bloggers described the action of the dishmachine which you should integrate with your design. As far water temperature, read on...

Dishes can be "SANITIZED" against bacteria with cold water and a sanitizing rinse, but particles of food which have dried will not be removed. A thorough manual pre-wash process to remove particles, followed by a cold water wash with a sanitizing agent will provide a superior result over not doing either one.

One of the actions that occurs when water is heated is that it is softened. Let's look into a chemical water softening process and see if there is any information that would indicate that soft water advances the process to remove food particles. I will explore the issue in my professional capacity as a Plumbing Designer. In the meantime, you can explore this on the internet. Let us discuss this in a couple of days.

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02/03/2009 5:34 AM

You could use some type of aggreate like ground nut shells and spray the dishes and pots with that to clean them. Then rinse them with a heavey bleach mix. They use finely ground hickory nut shells in place of sand to blast paint from fiberglass.

You could always spray the dishes with some sort of Cellouse Based or water based plastic so the keep a shine.

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