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6 axle with 2 motors ?

01/17/2009 5:02 PM

ok this is a quik image i have made

those thick black lines are round tubes to spin ... my 6 axle
and i whant to spin them one at the time with 2 dc motor if its possible.

if motor 1 spins right and motor 2 spins left then the first axle will rotate.

if motor 1 spins left and motor 2 spins right then the second axle will rotate.

if motor 1 is stoped and motor 2 spins right then the third axle will rotate.

if motor 1 is stoped and motor 2 spins left then the fourth axle will rotate.

if motor 1 spins left and motor 2 is stoped then the fifth axle will rotate.

if motor 1 spins right and motor 2 is stoped then the sixth axle will rotate.


Ok i hope someone understand this, this would work if i know how to build it, I have a couple of gears but its seems impossible.

Can anyone help me, show me or explain how exactly i can do or give me another teory to make this ?

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Re: 6 axle with 2 motors ?

01/17/2009 5:04 PM

Interesting - I haven't put any thought into this yet, but my first reaction is - Why? What is the purpose?

I am not trying to dissuade you or anything - I am just curious. I have never really come across such a concept.

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Re: 6 axle with 2 motors ?

01/17/2009 11:45 PM

Loooong ago machine shops had the same problem.

One water wheel, steam or diesel primary driver with the need to have loads running intermittently. This they achieved with one or more drive shafts hanging from the ceiling with each tool that can be isolated with a clutch / removing the belt or . . .

The same principle would apply, you would need to disable / disconnect the drive between a motor and a shaft if one is running and one should be stationary.

I am very curious as to why.

The 144 is not enough as a clue.

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Re: 6 axle with 2 motors ?

01/18/2009 12:17 AM

Same question why ? why you want to drive the axles with 2 motors ?

I always am more comfortable driving them with single motor.

If two motors are on same shaft and are energised, you always have aload sharing problem.

use shifters/ gear/ pulleys form a single motor /individual axle motors to drive the axles as you want

The shifter logics/ RH/LH can be easily achieved by relays and simple electronics logic - either direction of rotation of the motors may be sensed or the signals to motor may be sensed to activate the required axle.

Assuming the voltage across terminals (being DC Motors) are as below

Motor 1Motor2 Shaft
+-1
-+2
0+3
0-4
-05
+06

This is a simple logic and can be converted to activate shifter or if the cost/ power permit activate individual drive motors.

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01/18/2009 1:31 AM

You have two motors with eight possible combinations, nine if you include both stopped, so possible a PLC unit or aux contact breakers to operate electric clutches, or engage a gear?

Regards JD.

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01/18/2009 7:32 AM

Looks like Fun!

Also looks like someone's homework.

Convince me it is not, I want to play with it.

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Re: 6 axle with 2 motors ?

01/19/2009 12:11 AM

mail me back with the aplication,use of those axles, i will send you a drawing sketch,showing,how to rotate different axles at different timing and rotations direction only with single motor tell me wat size and no of teeths ,n nos, of gears you have , do yu want it mechanicaly or electronicaly controlled..........manual changing lever, or automatic shifting.....

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01/19/2009 4:08 AM

Mechanically, the use of six differentials (one per axle) and two inversions (1:1 gears) would suffice. But would this not be more complicated and expensive than using six DC motors?

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Re: 6 axle with 2 motors ?

01/19/2009 7:14 AM

This is not perfect as it relies on the least path of resistance to work and as drawn the shafts would rotate in different directions, but that is easy to solve.

Each motor drives the input pinion of a differential, with the output pinnions connected via a belt drive.

The green and red parts are "sprag clutches" which would connect to the shafts via belts. Green ones drive clockwise (C), red ones drive anti-clockwise (A).

2 pairs of clutches on each differential cage drive 4 shafts, 1 pair on the belt drive power the other 2.

Just an idea.

Regards rog8811

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Re: 6 axle with 2 motors ?

01/19/2009 11:57 AM

Hydraulic pumps on the motors, a valving system that detects the 6 conditions you specify, and routes the pressure appropriately.

Of course you don't say how much power or speed you need so all bets are off.

Hooker <--- effused with hydraulic fluid thanks to Chinook helicopters.

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Re: 6 axle with 2 motors ?

01/19/2009 1:40 PM

thank you all for your answear i will check your solutions :)

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01/19/2009 4:57 PM

....and give us marks out of ten?

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Re: 6 axle with 2 motors ?

01/20/2009 4:12 AM

are you making a toy or somethin..........

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