Teaching in a school after retirement

Teaching credentials are very location specific, here in the US we are so in need of science teachers in upper grades we expedite credentials for industry professionals returning to the classroom.

But again this policy is being carried out very geographic specific. I live in Arizona, you could teach immediately while working on your credentials, I have a friend in Maryland - they had an expedited college program that took about a year - then into the classroom.

To determine local policies would require searching each state's education website, and then each county website - but could be well worth the effort.

nvmani,

My plan was to get my MBA so that I could consult and teach college. I received my MBA in December, and was asked by that university to teach beginning in JAnuary as an adjunct.

I am probably 15 years away from retirement.

I am currently teaching seniors in college on night a week.

Here in the states, a master's degree is sufficient to teach, in my experience.

Several of the adjuncts in my MBA program were MBA's themselves rather than PHD.

They brought actual Practice knowledge rather than just academic opinion.

I believe that you could do well offerring a "boot camp" for engineers and entry level managers to help them learn "the ropes to skip and the ropes to know," rather than have them just thrash around trying to figure things out the hard way.

And offerring such "seminars" might get you around the CREDENTIAL FASCISTS or whatever you call them over there.

Teachers teach, and if you're a teacher, you're probably already doing it. Just formalize it and give it a format.

Meaning no disrespect, but an end of career professional like yourself probably has much better things to do with your time than learn how "the educational establishment" thinks you should present material that they can't even conceptualize.

Apologies for my wild west attitude, but life is short and you have a lot to offer; why wait to please some bureaucrat?

Good luck on this and stay in touch.

milo

The teachers association has taken action to limit the entry of experienced people from industry in the field.

This is usually by denial of credentials and then after you are credentialed you start at the base of a 15 year long salary rampup. This usually means the salaries are unattractive for the first 5-10 years compared to the salary in industry.

This has led to a serious shortage of all manner of technically competent teachers in high schools here in Ontario, Canada,. People who are worthless in industry take these jobs after being credentialed, as they are unable to get positions in industry. Many of these people are bad at teaching but they are now in the union and cannot be removed, save for crimes of gross incompetence.

So if you are credentialed now you will get to a reasonable wage in about 7 years.

The work hours are good. Those who believe what teachers say about long hours should walk across the parking lot at 3:15 PM....they stand a good chance of being run down by teachers leaving. Once a routine is established, there is little new material taught and marking and planning can all be done in school

Your report is sad. My mother was from Ontario, and i remember being told the wonders of the education system up ther compared to here in the states.

My daughter went to school at univ.of guelph for a year and came back a raving hater of socialists and faculty unions. I'm still not sure I know the reasons behind all of that... I've always had issues with bureaucrats, but she developed this all by herself.

I haven't investigated what the requirements for teaching High School here in the states are, but I figure with a masters degree and undergrad in Chem/ metallurgy and plenty of statistics, i could find a system that needed me.

And each state is different.

The salary at the University as an adjunct is enough to keep the "kids in shoes" as they say.

yes, the unions have too much power in the schools at all levels. Pay and perks are $100,000 per year after 10 years in grade. They are so high they are breaking the system. Breaking the city and provincial and federal governments too. Canada is heading for a disaster.

These autoworkers with their $71 per hour refuse to yield on wages. Their management is just as over paid.

Doom Gloom, sky fall, etc etc

How about junior colleges, vocational schools, or technical schools?

Suggest you check with Australian College of TAFE which does apprenticeship training.

Refer : < www.sit.nsw.edu.au > they look for practical experience and may accept your "proven" lifetime practical experience.

Labor Omnia Vincit

With your significant experience in several countries you can join to "grandfathering programs" in order to get the proper credentials.

First, I think it's great you want to teach, and I admire you for that!

The information you are looking for should be public, at least in my country it can be obtained from the Ministry of Education.

Also, you could get jump-started and learn about education, or pedagogy, as some call it, from the Internet. It could also help with your credentials since you will probably have to write several essays on different topics to get certified as a teacher. (it's a drag, I know...)

After going through all the courses for my certification, these are my two favorite topics:

1.The Bloom-Anderson taxonomy (a recent "update" of the good old Bloom taxonomy) - a helpful regulatory tool for teaching and evaluating. You'll probably find it cool too because we engineers like numbers! ;)

2. The right/left brain approach - an example of using that would be to assess in which way your students learn, related to their most active brain hemisphere, then teach or evaluate them in that way, making it so much easier for them to "absorb" or "practice" their new knowledge.

And a closing tip: they say teaching can be disappointing for rookies, and it is most of the times like fighting wind mills. The good news is that after a while, it really gets better. A very successful educator once said no new teacher should quit before teaching for at least two years...

Success!

Dear Mr.Mani,

Since you have a very vast industrial experience, you can share your engineering experience with the students of various Engineering Colleges in Kerala, which will be very much inspiring for budding Engineers. Since you have MBA, you can very well become Guest Faculty of various institutions having MBA programmes. An Engineer having more than 40 years of industrial experience and having postgraduation in Business Management should be very much on demand.

Thanks,

Gopakumar.B

Thank you very much for the advice. I shall try to take up guest faculty assignments in engineering Colleges, if offered.

Thank you very much for the advice. I shall approach the Polytechnics /Engineering colleges. Regards.

Hi nvmani,

There are many universities in India conducting distance education in BEd course .It is 2 years course by distance education. You can check up with reputed universities like Annamalai University. The following is from their web site .http://annamalaiuniversity.ac.in/distance_edu.htm

"All the programmes of study offered by the Directorate of Distance Education have the approval of the Distance Education Council, New Delhi. The Directorate is introducing B.Ed. Programme through distance education mode from the year 2008-09 with the approval of National Council for Teacher Education, New Delhi. "

The list of colleges providing distance education is given in the following link.

http://www.webindia123.com/career/correspondence/list.asp?action=Bachelor+Of+Education+%28BEd%29&cat_Name=Bachelor+Course+In+Education

You can select and join any suitable course

Regards

Dear Sir, I applaud your efforts! I always felt that retired people would not only be the best Teachers, but also the best Mentors. Ninety percent of the knowledge that I have picked up in my career has be transferred to me by those who I have worked with. I have learned that team work and contributions from colleagues are as important as the knowledge gleamed from my education. What ever happened to the old Sage mentality. What I have discovered as of late, is that younger people entering industry are quite versed in many areas except the in the job they were hired for. It takes years of work to become intergrated in the field you are in. Who better to teach then an industry Guru. You want credentials, try thirty years of sweating problems and applying practical solutions. Now thats someone I would pay to listen to!!! The real question is this...how many "Professors" would you want overseeing the operation of an oil refinery?

You can try with teaching courses online.

Most the the Online schooling is taught by retired and active professionals. You won't have to relocate and can do your cirriculum from your home.

I had permanent teaching certification, in New York State, before I joined the Air Force. I assumed that, after retiring from the AF, I could return to teaching. For a while after retirement, I was a Research Scientist, working on government contracts, but I enjoy teaching, and I wanted to go back to it. I have taught at indpendent (private) schools and junior colleges, but I cannot find employment with a public school. The problem is that I am over-qualified, with multiple degrees and years of experience. Public schools are dominated by unions, and the union wage for me would be twice what a fresh-out-of-college teacher would get, so the administrators aren't interested in me. The union won't let me negotiate a lower salary. I am presently unemployed.

Editorial comment: Government schools, like other government programs, seldom work well. Bureaucrats think of budgets; they are seldom product-oriented.

Dear Sir,

I am in same boot as you.But I am already taeching ina priavte engg college in modinagar,You ahve enough experience there is no need to do B.Ed. sir OLD IS GOLD contact any engg college where you are located and your prblem would be over

h.s.sharma E mail:-huda1921@gmail.com

Thank you very much. Regards.

Having worked away from my homeland I always longed to return and relax. So I took voluntary retirement at the age of 54 but could not relax as I dreamt. I lately felt working is more relaxing than idling at home.

Fortunately I was mostly involved in training in the last leg of my service carrier. I realized the happiness of sharing my experience with needy youngsters via formal training programs and informal on the job teachings. I thought of extending this happy feeling even after my retirement by conducting training programs at various industries. Well, travels were always killing if one doesn't have flair for it. So I end up in what I'm doing now, developing training modules and selling through web. Though there is great scope for e-learning, there are many (confusing) tools in taking the content forward and there are a huge recipients waiting forward to listen experienced people like you and me.

With adequate education and enormous experience you can develop contents for e-learning.

I am a mechanical engineer experienced all along in petrochemical industries. So developing contents on pumps and compressors was possible for me. My customers asks me the same kind of learning stuffs for process, electrical, instrumentation, inspection, safety etc. I tried but could not do much and realized the impotence of the knowledge of the core subject. You could do on electrical topics; it could be your cup of tea. Need more help on this, please ask in specific on what area you need clarification. I will try to figure it out or our CR4 colleagues here will help, we all will benefit.