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A Mind of Their Own

11/13/2006 3:27 PM

We talk of "smart networks" and "independently thinking computers" as though they have already arrived. Yet network hubs that have the subtlety to make decisions the way people can are still some way off. It has taken computer scientists much longer than they anticipated to create a machine that can pass the test devised by mathematician Alan Turing more than a half-century ago. Often, the challenge is still to get the networks to function together. Still, that time may finally be approaching. This report from Red Orbit presents some developments in computer technology and software that begin to approach true "artificial intelligence".

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11/14/2006 1:01 AM

One day computers will have pets...human pets

Machines can rapidly make assorted combinations of widely varying inputs and screen those to evaluate them. Often humans blind themselves to certain aspects as not being the usual theory and do not evaluate those potential leads because they 'know' it is not a vaild approach. The machine does not know this and finds the answer.

I have no doubt machines will exceed humans in all manner of creative matters in time. But will they ever have fun?

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11/14/2006 4:32 AM

Probably not. But maybe we'll have fun with them.

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11/14/2006 11:55 AM

I'm convinced that traditional computers that store information as bits will never be successful at modeling our brains (attaining awareness). Human brains, and all brains for that matter, don't store information as bits, but rather develop preferred patterns in a network. It's been shown that brain disorders, states of alertness, responsivenss all can be categorized using fractals. Brain disorders and sleep tend to be more orderly network patterns (oscillating), consciousness is characterized by a larger disorder or as a more chaotic network. Our brains are like a needle standing on it's head, with small impulses resulting in cascading effects throughout the network. The more chaotic the network, the smaller the stimuli needed to produce an effect. This is why we're are more responsive to outside stimuli while awake as opposed to asleep.

The brain is a nonlinear system and I think it will require a nonlinear computer, or a system that approximates a nonlinear computer, to model it.

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11/14/2006 3:19 PM

well, attaining awareness as us will never come as they are not us, differs from being able to out think us and being self aware in their own right.

Computers can already outthink us in many areas. Those areas will increase until they cover all the areas we encompass and will also expand to new areas and new senses that only animals have (bats, snakes, porpoises etc., to name a few).

Now will they make an all in one mobile machine that does all that? They may not, we may be cheaper for many uses, but they may make specialized machines for small task set roles.

Self awareness is the ability to be awake and deal with all your inputs and outputs...that comes easy to a machine. We are not that self aware, we cannot control many aspects of our body, heart, gut, the liver, kidney and many others are not under our aware control. I expect a machine intellect will be able to control all these things if it chooses (although it may place many things in a housekeeping mode, like a thermostat on the furnace... just operate in the background). We have relegated most of our operations like that to background systems we no longer exercise any control over). Breathing differs, we can control it, but it has an override....we cannot stop breathing for very long before the override acts.

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