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Mechanical Flying Shear

04/12/2009 10:09 PM

Is it possible to make a flying shear that uses only mechanical means to track and match the speed of the product it is cutting?

I have a circular cutting wheel that only needs to rotate clockwise a 1/4 turn for each cut. But, it will need to move on a guide at the same speed as the product while it cuts. Then it will need to return to start the next cut.

I know I can spend about $30K for a 2 axis electronic system of drives and motors, but I was wondering if there is a more primitive way of doing the same thing.

I have compressed air and plc logic available. I would even be satisfied with a system of limit switches and air valves. I think it would be alot cheaper.

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Re: Mechanical Flying Shear

04/13/2009 12:49 AM

Hi troyalec,

Yes,it possible to do so, 31yrs ago (1978) when i was working in a steel mill which we are using mechanical clutch and brake system. Of course need flywheel,shear,proximately sensor ans solenoid valve and mechanical variable speed via varies the drive belt hub opening and closure ratio.But it is 360 deg turn cycle.Every cut must back to original position by mean of control via proximately sensor,solenoid valve and electronic control with counter. In order to match to the steel bar product speed in the conveyer tray.

We are able to cut the steel bar from the size of dia 8mm to 50mm - we have few size of fly shear (By Italy, Daniel company)

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Re: Mechanical Flying Shear

04/13/2009 6:08 AM

How can I get more details about this?

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Re: Mechanical Flying Shear

04/14/2009 12:13 AM

I think you need to be more specific about your application

what is the material? what size is the input material and what size, shape, thickness,etc are you looking for as an output?

When I worked at 3M, we used a machine called a flyknife to cut long rolls of scotchbrite into scrubber pads..but if you are cutting some other type of product, it probably wouldn't work.. they had a number of different technologies for cutting different shapes, but without knowing your materials and sizes.. I can't help.

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Re: Mechanical Flying Shear

04/14/2009 12:52 AM

Years ago, we cut a material to length while it was being continuously produced by a machine.

The product went to a stop at which point the frame attached to the stop moved with the material and activated the cutting blade (which was attached to the movable frame)

When the cut was finished, the product was pushed off the frame, a spring returned frame and cutter to the start position and it all started again.

Purely mechanically controlled.

A similar approach should be able to be adapted to your process.

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04/14/2009 1:39 AM

We used a similar system, but the product fell through the frame, releasing it.

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04/14/2009 8:39 AM

I have seen purely mechanical tracking tooling like this also. An elegant mechanical solution when appropriate! GA!

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04/14/2009 9:37 AM

Can I get any more information about this?

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Re: Mechanical Flying Shear

04/14/2009 1:02 PM

I have designed and built many of these over the years in the roll forming industry.

We use a multicyl to punch a small notch in the material prior to roll forming, this length between notches is programmed to required finished part length.

The notch matches up with a spring loaded tab in the cut off die which engages and makes the die follow the part, when the die shears the part, the edge of the shear blade disengages the tab which allows the spring loaded die to return to the home position to await next notch.

Great repeatability and has shown to run with little to no maintenance, other then a little oil when it gets dirty.

Of course all designs are different based on application and material.

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Re: Mechanical Flying Shear

04/14/2009 4:17 PM

My material is extruded "green" clay.

I can't punch it and use it to move the cutter.

I can, however, put a wheel on top of it and have it trigger a limit switch.

It's matching the speed without an encoder and drive that has me baffled.

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04/15/2009 12:12 AM

If you design the carrier so that the clay comes against a stop which spreads the load over the full face of the clay, you should be able to use it to trigger a small air cylinder to augment the thrust (lessening the load on the clay, but not completely removing it so that the clay plug drives the process).

This should give enough thump to allow shear and carrier to move together.

At the end of the travel, a slot in the bench below should enable your clay plug to fall out and spring or air can return it for the next cycle.

If the damage to the plug doesn't allow it to be dropped through a slot, then you could rotate the carrier and roll the clay out.

The system we used was for a fairly rigid piece of very thin wall, semi flexible ducting. It was far lighter than your clay plug and could handle a greater compressive load so it could drive the entire process itself.

In this case you will almost certainly need to use the clay to trigger something which will provide almost all the muscle needed.

Have fun with the details (the devil's in the detail, but it is fun)

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Re: Mechanical Flying Shear

04/14/2009 8:52 PM

I too worked in a steel mill that had a number of straitners and each straitner had a flying shear all run mechanicly save for a limit switch that activated a cluch that activated the shear. very accurate repeatability.

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Re: Mechanical Flying Shear

04/16/2010 1:03 PM

hello, where can i get a regular flying shear to cut 8mm to 16mm TMT rebars? a 2 axis $30k shear can be considered by us. Thanks. Gopal

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Re: Mechanical Flying Shear

05/18/2010 3:17 PM

Contact Force Control Industries they have many application with flying shear drives,

cutting everything from glue sticks to 10" steel bar stock.

www.forcecontrol.com

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