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Box Dimension on a Mechanical Drawing

04/17/2009 11:52 AM

Can anyone tell me the true definition of a "box dimension" on a mechanical drawing?

I understand it's a "basic dimension" but how does it control tolerance?

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Re: Box Dimension on a Mechanical Drawing

04/17/2009 11:58 PM

boxed dimensions are theoretically perfect numbers. tolerances are derived from the GD&T tolerance frame that is associated with the dimension. boxed dimensions do not experience tolerance stackup when there is more than one dimension in line. each dimension is mathematically perfect.

for instance, say you have a hole that is dimensioned using conventional toleranced dimensions in both x and y coordinates. say for instance that the tolerances on those two dimensions are +/-.005". you end up with a square target zone .010" on a side.

if that same hole were dimensioned as a bolt circle diameter and an angle, your tolerance zome is a truncated pie shape. but if you used basic dimensions with a true position symbol and .010 as the tolerance in the box, regardless of whether it was a bolt circle/angle or cartesian coordinates, the target zone is a circle .010 across.

Basic dimensions must be refereced to datums. Generally you have a datum for each axis in which basic dimensions are refereced from. datums are NEVER on a centerline. this is a VERY COMMON error. Datums are always on a surface. Usually a planar surface, but they can be on a cylinder as well. the one exception is cylinders. when you put a datum on a cylinder, you are assumed to have two perpendicular planes that intersect on the CL of the cylinder. so you can get both an x and a y coordinate datum off a single datum reference.

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04/18/2009 12:20 AM

there are a number of different GD&T frame symbols that you might find. I would suggest you pick up a copy of Geometrics III. it is a pretty good primer on GD&T.

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Re: Box Dimension on a Mechanical Drawing

04/18/2009 3:22 PM

Check ANSI Y14.5.

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Re: Box Dimension on a Mechanical Drawing

04/18/2009 4:26 PM

Ahhhhhhh ...... That'll be $169.00 sir.

Best you find a book on the subject. Will be a whole lot cheaper and easier to read and understand.

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Re: Box Dimension on a Mechanical Drawing

04/19/2009 9:27 AM

Ahhhhhhh ...... That'll be $169.00 back to you sir.

Best you don't comment on something you know nothing about.

Maybe you should buy a book

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04/19/2009 11:48 AM

David -- I'd suggest you take a closer look at your target before you hurl your stones.

My comment was in answer to the Guest who suggested you go to the "standard". Not exactly practical. You will not find ANSI Y14.5M-1994 anywhere on the internet or in most any library other than that of a college that teaches engineering. Why?

Because The American Society of Mechanical Engineers (which has become little more than a money grubbing publishing house; pardon the editorial comment here) charges $169.00 for a 232 page paperbound copy (quantity discounts available). Amazon has used copies as low as $85.

I thought Rorschach gave a reasonable answer to your question although if you are new to this game it might have been a bit hard to understand.

BTW, I don't comment on things I know nothing about and this is no exception.

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04/20/2009 9:42 AM

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Re: Box Dimension on a Mechanical Drawing

05/05/2009 12:58 PM

It is depends on your applications where you used which used it is function it is outer box or inner part or covering sheet any pl replay i will draw and send it you

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Re: Box Dimension on a Mechanical Drawing

05/21/2009 2:55 AM

it is a geometric tolerance......we can measure and advise the best to to manufacture these componets....http://www.alnoproductservices.com.au/

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