Additive for Oil Water Emulsions

7 comments

Rate

gerdsmit Associate Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 28	Additive for Oil Water Emulsions 05/14/2009 3:42 PM
	Machines are offered to emulsify to the nanolevel up to 40% water in oil and produce an efficient and stable engine fuel with no loss of power on the condition to add a propietary fuel additive. Does anybody imagine what kind of additive could this be ?
	Register to Reply

Interested in this topic? By joining CR4 you can "subscribe" to
this discussion and receive notification when new comments are added.

edignan Guru Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Borrego Springs Posts: 2636 Good Answers: 62	#1 Re: Additive for Oil Water Emulsions 05/14/2009 4:06 PM
	Naphthalene? __________________ "If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!"
	Register to Reply

Mikerho Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Moses Lake, WA, USA, Thulcandra - The Silent Planet (C.S. Lewis) Posts: 4216 Good Answers: 194	#2 Re: Additive for Oil Water Emulsions 05/14/2009 4:50 PM
	Diethyl ether? __________________ "Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it. Do not count on them. Leave them alone." - Ayn Rand
	Register to Reply

PWSlack Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: In the bothy, 7 chains down the line from Dodman's Lane level crossing, in the nation formerly known as Great Britain. Kettle's on. Posts: 32175 Good Answers: 839	#3 Re: Additive for Oil Water Emulsions 05/15/2009 3:16 AM
	Washing up liquid? __________________ "Did you get my e-mail?" - "The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place" - George Bernard Shaw, 1856
	Register to Reply

wcfloyd Power-User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Chester, SC, USA Posts: 308 Good Answers: 19	#4 Re: Additive for Oil Water Emulsions 05/15/2009 6:41 AM
	Sounds like a low HLB surfactant. Those are used for making water in oil emulsions. I would imagine it is non-ionic, since ionic groups (sulfate, phosphate) woould leave ash from combustion. The machine sounds like a homogenizer, probably mechanical, possibly ultrasonic. By "nanolevel", do they mean particle size of 100 nm? __________________ ...That's why we call it "Research"!
	Register to Reply

Blink Guru Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4484 Good Answers: 246	#5 Re: Additive for Oil Water Emulsions 05/15/2009 9:52 AM
	The emulsifying agent would be a surfactant, as found, for example, in dish-washing liquid. This article from Komatsu discusses some of the issues involved in water-fuel emulsions. If you contacted Komatsu, perhaps they could tell you what surfactant they selected... or they might not, if they intend to sell the surfactant. Searching for "oil emulsifier" will turn up manufacturers of surfactants who could supply your needs, though. __________________ There is more to life than just eating mice.
	Register to Reply

edignan Guru Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Borrego Springs Posts: 2636 Good Answers: 62	#6 In reply to #5 Re: Additive for Oil Water Emulsions 05/15/2009 10:10 AM
	Don't know Gerdsmith - but I had taken this as a leading question - as in Answer to follow? __________________ "If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!"
	Register to Reply Off Topic (Score 5)

esbuck Power-User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 454 Good Answers: 24	#7 Re: Additive for Oil Water Emulsions 05/19/2009 2:39 PM
	Go to http://cr4.globalspec.com/blogentry/4876/Raising-Boiler-Efficiency , especially #6. If you Google on Tymponic or Cottell you will find many entries concerning emulsifying oil and water to use as fuel. It worked in boilers and in Mercedes diesels. It was all demonstrated a long time ago, with great savings in fuel, and then, as mysteriously happens, it went nowhere commercially. As Scarlett said, "Tomorrow is another day," and its time may have come.
	Register to Reply

Copy to Clipboard

Blink (1); edignan (2); esbuck (1); Mikerho (1); PWSlack (1); wcfloyd (1)

You might be interested in: Fuel Cells, Fuel Testers, Petroleum and Mineral Oil Products

	Got Something to Say?
	Ask a Question Start a Discussion

	Search this Forum
	Chemical & Material Science: Go

	Aerospace
	BioMech & BioMed
	Chemical & Material Science
	Civil Engineering
	Communications & Electronics
	Education and Engineering Careers
	Electrical Engineering
	General Discussion
	Instrumentation
	Manufacturing
	Mechanical Engineering
	New Technologies & Research
	Software & Programming
	Sustainable Engineering
	Transportation

	Site Directories
	Forum Directory Blog Directory User Group Directory RSS Feeds CR4 Rules of Conduct CR4 FAQ Site Glossary Who's Online (78 right now) Show Members