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SRC Heating Control

05/15/2009 2:52 AM

we have heater to heat the vapors for regeneration of dryers sequence is control by PLC and the heater control starts when the sequence reaches that step set value is set in plc at 340 Oc the output of the controller is 4 to 20ma and is given to SRC which drives the heater in burst mode , output of the controller reaches max value but we are unable to reach the set temperature ie we getting 328 Oc . we check the temperature element ,found tobe ok and the transmitter to be ok.

SRC has failed once and repaired by the vendor since after we are receiving this problem .

can any body tell me the reason ?? or any configuration to be checked in SRC

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Adil

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Re: SRC heating control

05/15/2009 3:06 AM

What temperature can you get up to if you wire the heater directly to the supply?

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Re: SRC heating control

05/15/2009 3:46 AM

it reaches upto 360 and can go further we tried upto 380

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05/15/2009 3:59 AM

Does the controller indicate 328°C? Does an independent measurement also give 328°C? If both of these are true, it suggests that the controller is not correctly receiving the setpoint value from the PLC.

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Re: SRC heating control

05/15/2009 6:04 AM

yes both and actual and plc reading are matching .

also we simulate from feildd and both the readings are matching.

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Re: SRC heating control

05/15/2009 6:34 AM

Does it reach 340°C if you change the PLC setpoint to, say, 352°C?

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05/15/2009 6:58 AM

we cant change the set value as it is computed value from PLC but if we take in auto mode also it has no change because the output reaches to 20 ma ie 100% with computed value also in auto mode

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05/15/2009 7:46 AM

Sorry, I've just about run out of ideas of things to try remotely.

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05/15/2009 10:30 AM

what we analyse is the SRC which is triggerring the heater can you tell me about it necessary configuration so as to get full output

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Re: SRC heating control

05/15/2009 10:47 AM

Do you have any details of it? Manufacturer & type number, for example?

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Re: SRC Heating Control

05/16/2009 2:18 AM

Depending on the size of the heating load there can be transients occuring during commutation within the SCR. A simple R/C filter of sufficient size may be all that is needed to filter the transients and protect the SCR.

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Re: SRC Heating Control

05/17/2009 12:23 PM

I would suggest connecting the element directly to line and amping it. Read volts, calculate watts. Reconnect to SCR and provide a full with a signal generator , verify signal 20ma. Element should be full on no duty cycle. Again amp element and read volts. Watts should be very close to line readings. If not replace SCR controller. Also verify signal from PLC controller. If full signal is not at 20ma SCR is still modulating.

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