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noise at full load

05/30/2009 10:22 AM

hi;

ive generated three phase power signal of 500hz, 20vrms line to line voltage and 1.5A for my ac motor. the signal at no load condition is totally noise free but when it is connected to the motor, the power signal becomes too much noisy. noise starts from 1.5khz and continuous to some mhz.

can any one suggest any solution to the problem.

i have implemented RC phase shifters in my circuit as well as the output stage is that of power amplifiers so please suggest a solution that would not worsen the orginal or no load functioning of the circuit.

one more query:

can anyone suggest any isolator(small size) that i could use to transmit my ac single(this one is modulating signal and is single phase) to the load(that is inductive). the parameters of this signal are: 7vrms, 16KHz.

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Re: noise at full load

05/30/2009 1:00 PM

You don't say whether the noise you have measured is current, or voltage, so I'm going to assume voltage. It is perfectly natural for the motor to draw harmonic current at levels that decrease roughly with increasing frequency. This is in the kHz range; the MHz stuff is likely arcing due to brush noise, more on that later.

If the harmonic currents generate excessive ripple voltage, that means the source impedance of your three phase power is too high. On thing you might do to check it (very roughly), is to replace the motor with a resistive load that draws the same rms current, and look at the open and loaded output potential, and compute the source resistance of your supply, from this simple equation:

Rout = Rload * (Voc - VL)/VL,

where, Rout is the desired output resistance value, Rload is the resistance that draws the desired rms current, Voc is the open circuit potential of your power source, and VL is the output potential of your power source loaded by RL.

The impedance should be measured where you connect to the motor; that will include the effect of the wiring, if any.

It is possible that the source resistance at 500 Hz is suitable, but the source inductance is too high. You might have to look at your wiring interconnection in that case, and also possibly your source of 500 Hz power.

Finally, noise approaching a megahertz is likely brush noise - arcing - unless this is an induction motor, in which case there should be no noise other than that induced at harmonics of the power frequency. Brush noise may be filtered via small caps placed line-to-line and/or line-to-ground at the motor's power connector. These caps can be 1 uF or less, and thus should have a negligible effect on load power factor.

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