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sag mill vibration

07/19/2009 5:15 AM

I'm on a mining industry. we're having excessive vibration on the discharge end of our trunnion sag mill bearing. we already ask help for some expert and we are just done on relining the mill, we already check-up bearing clearances and bearing as a whole but still to no avail. we already try to reduce the rpm of the mill but nothing happened. anyone who had already the same experience? I need some help from you guys..

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Re: sag mill vibration

07/19/2009 2:33 PM

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Hello Archie,

I assume that you've checked and ruled-out the pinion and girth gear meshings, as well, correct? In addition to the excessive vibration, has the mill recently experienced any bolt breakage ('structural', not 'liner')? Owing to the severe dynamic operating nature of mill bolts, their proper preload is critical. Improper bolt preload has lead to fatigue failure and slippage - and excessive vibration. On the other hand, improper bolt preload can also lead to simple slippage if the bolts are too 'loose'.

Either extreme is quite common on mills assembled by "torque" methods without preload control. You may wish to look into this if you haven't already.

Here's an interesting Case History which describes how potential failure was averted during a Girth Gear replacement job on a SAG Mill by ensuring control of bolt preload - SAG Mill Girth Gear Repalcement

Good luck making lots of concentrate!

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Re: sag mill vibration

07/21/2009 2:14 AM

I can't here any unusual sound on the girth gear..so I assumed there is no problem with that. There is also no bolt breakage on its history for the last 6 months both structural and liner. Bearing clearance is the answer...that's what I strongly believe.

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07/21/2009 11:07 PM

Hello again Archie,

I agree that the bearing is a potential culprit. Nevertheless, I'd be apt to take a closer look at both gears. It's tough to make the call to shut down the mill but, if doing so prevents a prolonged forced shutdown for gear replacement due to tooth breakage, the present pain offsets a much more intense problem in the future. You're monitoring and trending the lube oil temps, correct? Regardless of the temperatures, I'd suggest that you pull the plug immediately if you notice sudden changes.

I don't envy you. Good luck!

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Re: sag mill vibration

07/19/2009 11:43 PM

Can you please let us know the bearing number & sleeve details. Few months back we too had similar kind of problem in our lime stone crusher and it got sorted out after we changed the bearings and its sleeve. ( clearance were very high )

you can get the vibrations analysed and then pin point the areas where vibrations are more

probable reasons for vibrations :

1) Bearing clearances 2) type of sleeve used 3) mounting bolts getting loosened 4) motor / drive arrangements 5) structures 6) gear box condition, if any

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07/21/2009 1:57 AM

The bearing is an SKF 242/1500 CAK. I guess your right with the bearing clearance, that's what I also thought. But the management won't stop the mill until the bearing get damaged. They love production and they hated maintenance...It's them who will pay.

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Re: sag mill vibration

07/20/2009 8:52 AM

Since you just finished with a reline, I would look closely to see if anything changed that could cause the vibration.

If this mill Trunnion is a large plain bearing I would make sure the lubrication of the bearing is taking place as before. When a heavy mill sits for an period of time the lubricant will all be squeezed out of the plain bearing. Or possibly the solid lubricant (if that is the type) will need primed with liquid or heated to start working correctly again.

Also it may be a possibility that the vibration is not originating at the Trunnion. Sometimes the source of vibration is not apparent.

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07/21/2009 1:53 AM

I think clearance on the bearing is the cause of the vibration. Sad to say, management prioritize more on our production than the maintenance. It is them who will pay anyway. The bearing that we use is a huge SKF 242/1500 CAK and I actually supervise all the lubrication activities and everything is well as what the temperature of the bearing shows.

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