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Oil Filtration

07/20/2009 2:01 AM

Hello,

Actually we are supplying a Industrial filters and one of our CS Tube manufacturer customer is facing very critical problem during their CS tube manufacturing process as below,,,,,

Generally they are doing Three process for CS tube Pickling process 1st is they are clean this tube in the Acid bath for rust removing then 2nd they are put this tubes in the Hot DM water bath after that finally they are put this Tubes in the Oil bath .. after oil bath the process is complete. Now they are reuse this Oil which was used in Tube oil bath /...... They don't have any filtartion systems for this oil filtartion they are keep oil for setteling then from hodge they fill the drum and clean the hodge and they reuse the oil..but the oil quality is not so good.... and suspended rust particle is there .... and this can't be remove from the oil which can't see by the eye.... so i am try to take trial for this oil filtration and Install one Housing along with 5 micron resin bonded filter cartridge. but unforunatelly we not getting any perfect result .. the is remains same ... so kindly suggest me which filter system or cartridge is suitable for this oil filtartion ... inside this oil there are so many suspended and disolve particles so it's colour change....please suggestme the exect soluation....

Bhargav Thakkar.....

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Re: Oil Filtration

07/20/2009 10:54 PM

You may have to "wash" the oil with a water mist to remove the finest particulate matter. I have seen processes for making biodiesel in which they spray a fine mist of water over the biodiesel and let the water settle to the bottom of the tank. They draw off the water from the bottom and then heat the oil to dry it. Then it is filtered. This may be useful in your system.

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Re: Oil Filtration

07/20/2009 11:09 PM

Centrifugal filters will be good option.

we generally use is for the filteration of the removed hydraulic / transmission oils for re-use. This removes any foriegn particles/water particles etc.

This is in use in many of the places.

Kindly check the suitability for size etc.

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Re: Oil Filtration

07/21/2009 12:30 AM

Probably the oil container does not have proper slope to drain all dirty oil to the filter system. Please check

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Re: Oil Filtration

07/21/2009 1:51 AM

All foriegn particles are trapped in the paper filter which are inserted ll along the wall of the centrifuse bowl and water is thrown out of the out let pipe/hose.

this is a proven method and it works.

Only, the person should select the right one.

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Re: Oil Filtration

07/21/2009 1:20 AM

Please provide an estimate of the total quantity and GPM of the oil needing filtered.

Wound cotton filter elements are best for removing rust

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Re: Oil Filtration

07/22/2009 12:53 AM

check out Frantz Filters. they can filter out stuff the size of ciggarette smoke. Frantz Filters .com

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Re: Oil Filtration

07/24/2009 3:13 AM

First a few comment on the process.

The process that is carried out at our place

the first step is baking (or rather burning) the pipe lines in oven to de-bond the paint, grease, preservatives etc applied on the pipes and flanges. This improves the life of the acid bath.

Ensure the flow, churning in the acid bath and the bath temperature so that the steel surfaces are properly pickled.

After the DM water cleaning we have a step for neutralising and passivating. Though may not be mandatory, but this is being done at our works.

As far as the removal of the particles are there - why don't you try out magnetic separation (most of the iron particles will be removed by this simple method) and Eletrostatic filtration (kidney loop) or the centrifuge?

Only be careful of the acid built up in the oil, since you are not neutralising the pipe after pickling and incomplete removal of acids in rinsing may result in this.

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Re: Oil Filtration

07/24/2009 10:23 PM

Great answer sb.

"As far as the removal of the particles are there - why don't you try out magnetic separation (most of the iron particles will be removed by this simple method)" We installed eriez magnets on our drawbench line and they pulled out more scale, oxide and steel shot from our blasters than our VP could believe.

We ended up needing to empty it once a shift for first couple of weeks to deplete the saturated oil and sumps (who changes out oil these days) and got it down to changing every two days.

Sometimes simple is the best answer.

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Re: Oil Filtration

07/25/2009 1:52 AM

Our experience is same (In fact in our facory machines, in the circulating Lube Oil system, as well as the machines we supply to customers as OEM) we have the magnetic separators invariably in position to collect the wear debris. And it is surprising to find the collections made by them.

And they are simple ones - permanent magnet plugs fixed inside the filter, just allowing the oil to pass over them at low speed.

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Re: Oil Filtration

07/26/2009 7:26 AM

Sometimes simple is the best answer

very true-

I have seen simple jigs replacing complicated and inefficient machines

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