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Internet Explorer 7

12/11/2006 10:17 AM

Is anyone else like me in failing to make the jump from IE 6 to IE 7? Microsoft "snuck" the upgrade into my last XP update and I must admit trying to use it but was quickly frustrated because the UI was not an intuitive step for me. Rather than learn the whole new presentation, I dumped 7 and went back to 6 which worked fine for me. I know there are Firefox and Opera disciples out there, but I have felt very productive just opening multiple windows in IE 6 and really don't see the advantage of tabs which seems to be the big thing being pushed.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7

12/11/2006 11:28 PM

Once you use tabs you will never go back. www.maxthon.com is an IE6 type with tabs.

IE7 is an unstable beast. Give it a year

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Re: Internet Explorer 7

12/12/2006 2:59 AM

I have to say, I use IE7 at home, and find it very frustrating at work where I'm still using IE6. Interestingly, the kids are still on 6 at school, and can't seem to get up to speed with 7! I think it's all about personnel taste more then anything.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7

12/12/2006 3:15 AM

Just as I said it, I get the update! Now on IE7 at work and at home. Having given the matter a little more thought, I suppose the one thing I don't like about IE7 is the habit it has of opening two windows when you go to a web site. I've not been able to tune this function out yet, so if any one knows how, I'd appreciate the advice!

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Re: Internet Explorer 7

12/12/2006 4:57 AM

Yet another case of programmers fixing something that wasn't broken instead of addressing the difficult issues like security.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7

12/12/2006 6:53 AM

Hi Paddy: I am a new user of Mozilla Firefox, after many years of IE 6 and now I can´t explain myself why I delay so much to do the change. Once you use Mozilla will forget IE in a moment.

Regards, Gabriel, Buenos Aires, Argentina

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Re: Internet Explorer 7

12/12/2006 8:09 AM

MS snuck it in on my Desktop, and wow, the problems.

Office and PDF Converter run slow, web pages don't appear, I am often told I am of line, and so forth. A lot of the classic problems I read about in WinXP News.

Let me control the windows, on MS. Too cluttered, important functions harder to find (Like print, send page, etc)

My Laptop still runs IE6 and I have no such problems.

Actually, in my case had to get a Tech to "fix" Desktop after rollback to IE6 on the Desktop.

Can't really see the validity of these copied functions in a Office Environment like mine.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7

12/12/2006 8:17 AM

Yep, well I made the jump, had many severe speed issues and other compatibility issues.... and jumped back to IE6. I don't like the tabs enough to tolerate that...

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Re: Internet Explorer 7

12/12/2006 10:34 AM

nobody has mentioned the processors they are using. I updated to IE7 the first day I saw it at the MSN website. as with all new systems it took a little getting used to but seems to work fine on my PC. AMD 33MHz 64 bit processor, MSI 979 socket mother board generally screams with a DSL connection

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Re: Internet Explorer 7

12/14/2006 10:28 AM

Mine's been great, both under XP and now under Vista Enterprise--I'm still getting used to the tabs but I wouldn't call it "unstable" for me personally. And I don't think anyone call call it "insecure" with the new phishing filter. Finally, those calling it "unintuitive" haven't seen the new Vista and Office 2007 products--they are a lot of things but "unintiuitive" is not one of them. Different--yes... but trust me, you'll get used to it ;)

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Re: Internet Explorer 7

12/14/2006 11:07 AM

glad to hear from someone who has seen Vista. We are all going to be forced to upgrade eventually. I don't want to change my OS until I go to a dual core processor and probably a bigger hard drive. Might have to add RAM also. Can you tell me about the system you are using Vista Enterprise on? Thanks in advance.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7

12/20/2006 3:06 PM

Sure, right now I'm only running it on a 1GB Dell Latitude D600 notebook with an ATI Radeon 9000 video card. The video card is not up to the task of the Aero UI features, so it's not installed, but everything else works almost as well as it did under XP Pro performance wise, and I'd imagine the 1GB memory is the reason. The slow notebook hard-drive doesn't seem to be an extra Vista burden, though, so that's promising and the Pentium M 1.80GHz seems to be handling Vista well as well since the Aero UI features are disabled.

My next PC will hopefully be something with a Vista-compatible video card and a mobile Core 2 Duo (Latitiude D620 with the NVidia NVS option) and if/when that happens I'll comment on the "new" results since my currently setup is admittedly missing an important element without Aero.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7

01/10/2007 9:45 PM

hi,

I don't know. Let me go try it out...

Just tried it with IE 7 and it works fine. As in IE 6 it will think you have launched it for the first time since it is restricted from reading the local users profile. I attempted to create a folder in the windows directory from the open dialog in IE 7 while running it and I was rejected.

Looks like it works fine.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7

01/13/2007 10:22 AM

I decided to get big 'n brave and try IE7 at home, but still was holding off at work until deciding on how well it was going to suit me. A jr. meddler decided last week to run the upgrade on my PC at work one morning before I was there. Hats off to him, or maybe it should be off w/ his hat! BAM!

Well then, moving along....

One of the first things that is a pain in the (insert your best guess here), is that I find no link to my mail program. I've always checked for my mail from Explorers "Read Mail" link. They were thoughtful enough to provide a link to MSN Messenger, would it have been unreasonable to expect the option to get into your mail to still be there. If you know where the link is buried, let me know, maybe I just didn't see the forest for the trees.

Next, the text based menu bar is auto-hide. You must use [F10] each and every time you want to see it. Anyone knowing how to lock it out of auto-hide, let me know. Yes, I'm a dinosaur, and I want to see the menu available at all times.

If tabs are such a big deal, how come [CTRL][N] opens a fresh window still? Actually that's ok, but shouldn't there be a [CTRL][T], or is there such a command?(haven't tried). Better question, when a site wants to open your next link in a new window, wouldn't a new tab make more sense. It's all about the tabs, isn't it?

It does seem, that if you like to tax your RAM, like me , by having many windows open, sometimes for days, that a some point IE7 will fail to open new windows until you decide to close some. In fact at that point it won't even open a menu for your pop-up options when you click on one.

I am getting along with IE7, but haven't decided that it is the cat's meow

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Re: Internet Explorer 7

01/13/2007 10:37 AM

Tabs, buh humbug, we Dino's been doin' that thing our own way for years and could easily close a window as needed. So, how come when IE7 was on my desktop, if I closed just one teeny extra tab it opened up and instead of linking to the open page, all tabs and windows close down. As reported others have this glitch. I am running 32 bit instead of 64, but the desktop is pretty geeked out and only was 2 months old when this happened. Pentium 4, XP Media, ATI Radeon Express, and a good amount of memory. Do a lot of EXCEL and ACCESS stuff and computing, never a problem, just while relaxing surfing the net. Dang, have the geeks turned our work tools into toys like IPods, Blackberries, Gaming, and Bluetooth?

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Re: Internet Explorer 7

01/13/2007 12:29 PM

I haven't found a practical app for tabs yet either, the old way did work just fine. I've been trying to work with IE7, giving it the benefit of the doubt, for now, and hoping I will find myself enlightened by it's features somehow. Although, I doubt it.

Going back to IE6, or jumping ship for another browser is an option, for sure. But, in the old days, learning CPM, super-calc, etc. by the self-teaching method had more attractive options too. There are always going to be little things like this, all in the name of progress. Some of us were happy with Windows 3.11, and may have looked at alternatives, but we took on 98 or ME or 2000 and now, for the most part, we are settled in with XP and dreading the new toys ahead, as you say.

Hey, at least we still have those options, and I might just go back to IE6. I haven't run into any of the crash scenarios you mention yet & I'm on an old XP2200, 32bit as well. Man, I would be cranky had that happened to me, even just once.

I failed to mention earlier that favourites works a lot differently, and that if you are browsing your history, the list closes as soon as you make a selection...... don't like that either.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7

01/13/2007 12:36 PM

Favorites, just one more odd thing I found. In fact when using the Desktop for work, which I sometimes do, I ended up spending more time finding what I needed with 7. Sure, and I visit clients who have Windows 95 and other outdated stuff who are humming along making money. Some stuff I download on my Jumpstick for their use won't even open up.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7

01/13/2007 12:25 PM

Right-clicking an empty spot on the toolbar and checking the "Menu Bar" option should keep the menu bar available all the time--just like it was in IE6. You can move it around as well if you don't like where it puts it, but you may have to "Unlock Toolbars" first--from the same menu.

Also, Ctrl-T is indeed the IE7 command for a new tab.

As for your email, what email client do you use? Most web-mail services offer a way to add their service to Windows' "Mail" icon, and if you use an application you should be able to choose it either from Internet Explorer's "Internet Options" > "Default Programs" feature, or from the "Programs and Defaults" control panel as well under the "Mail" option.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7

01/13/2007 12:41 PM

Thanks,.... 2 outta 3(so far). I could have tried the [CTRL][t] when I was writing the entry, but no harm, another reader might benefit. Got the menu bar now too, makes perfect sense to try that too, but I hadn't thought of it.

Just using Outlook Express for my e-mail, & Outlook at work. I'll look at your suggestions on that a bit later, since I should be getting other things done.

Thanks again.

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