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Coating for Exterior Concrete

08/12/2009 11:15 PM

I need to coat exterior concrete steps to cover chips and cracks. Can I do this with a concrete slurry? I'm not crazy about the 'pebbles in epoxy' coatings and don't want to paint. Freeze/ thaw is a concern. Thanks

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Re: Coating for exterior concrete

08/12/2009 11:29 PM

deleted my comment.

I should have read the question more thuroughly before I suggested an epoxy coating...which is not what you want.

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Re: Coating for Exterior Concrete

08/13/2009 10:41 PM

Silicate mineral paint should be what you are looking for.

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08/13/2009 10:41 PM

I would think a 'sluury' or 'grout' coat would not adhere well over time. With epoxy finishes you don't need to use the 'pebbles'. Many factory floors are coated with epoxy with just sand used as a traction aid.

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Re: Coating for Exterior Concrete

08/13/2009 11:03 PM

I think a slurry would be too thin and would crack with the freeze' thaw problem. However they do have some cement with, i can't remember, which makes it pliable and might work. I'm afraid the epoxy is the only way I know of to go. good luck

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Re: Coating for Exterior Concrete

08/13/2009 11:37 PM

You can make a mortar mix, heavy on the mortar, light on the sand. Apply a bonding agent to the existing concrete. Make sure the existing concrete is damp before using the bonding agent. Then apply your mortar mix, then cover with straw or plastic, depending if its flat or vertical....Keep damp for a few days, at least three. The longer you keep it damp, the tougher it will be....In the end, you will have a concrete coating that is very similar to the original product....Make sure you use a good bonding agent (should look like milk) you can get it at Enco, or another large concrete supply company...hope this helps....thanks

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Re: Coating for Exterior Concrete

08/14/2009 7:59 AM

Here is a link to Euclid Chemical for a number of concrete repair and admixture products. I have successfully used some of their bonding agents and cold weather additives in the past with very good success. They have been doing this for a long time and their products are widely used in the construction industry.

http://www.euclidchemical.com/product_catalog.asp?top=288

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08/14/2009 8:27 AM

Paperguy,

We recommend that you "Stabilize" your concrete steps prior to attempting any repair of them! Use the Migratory Corrosion Inhibitor that is also a penetrating sealer[Concrete Waterproofing Compound CSI Section 03-05-00] called "StableCrete" to prep the surfaces first.

Clean the steps and make certain water is absorbed into the concrete[No barrier coating]. Liberally apply the material to allow it to seep into the cracks. Vertical surfaces can be rolled, to force product to penetrate into the full crack depth. This application will permanently waterproof the concrete surfaces and crack interiors.

Any coating, filler, leveling compound or slurry may be applied afterwards with a superior adhesion to the treated areas now that it has been Stabilized and waterproofed. With a dry concrete matrix your freeze thaw effects will be eliminated, and you won't experience chemistry [Alkali] migrating out to collect under your choice of a repair/coating material.

Feel free to PM me to discuss in more detail. If the cracks are deep enough to have allowed a lowered pH and destroyed the passivating layer on any reinforcement, you may also want to Re-Alkalize the matrix before applying the StableCrete. This will bring the pH back up and inhibit corrosion cell formation on embedded steel members. A high Ph concrete with decreased oxygen and moisture levels is the ideal matrix environment for concrete longevity!

A treated surface will be ready to accept whatever cosmetic treatments you decide on in 48 hours. Good Luck!

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08/14/2009 9:02 AM

The use of a concrete slurry will not provide a lasting solution. The most effective and affordable way to repair old, damaged concrete is to use MG-KRETE. This is a two-component high early strength, non-shrinking repair mortar. It will aggressively bond to existing concrete creating a surface coating that's 4x harder than regular concrete. MG-KRETE dries to 2610 psi in about 45 minutes, 24 hours to 5149 psi and in 28 days is 11,197 psi. It also resists oil, gasoline, salt, UV Radiation and water. EVC Global Distribution Customer Service Southern US, Authorized Distributor for IMCO Technologies, Inc.

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Re: Coating for Exterior Concrete

10/14/2009 8:38 AM

in what weather conditions temperatures can mg krete be applied

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10/14/2009 8:26 PM

There are no temp restrictions. It can be applied to in sub zero temps and in any heat. The use of a Retarder or Accelerator is all that's needed. An Accelerator is needed in colder temps (2 or 3 oz per bag). In higher temps, a Retarder can slow the curing to allow more time to work. Regardless, thei w/i one hour the psi is 2610, 24 hours around 6000 psi, and 28 days 11,190 psi.

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Re: Coating for Exterior Concrete

10/15/2009 9:44 AM

can this product be used as a skim coat were flaking and cracking are present on a concrete slab or drive

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Re: Coating for Exterior Concrete

08/14/2009 9:07 AM

vinyl patch or thin patch or look up "quikcrete" on the web

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08/14/2009 11:55 AM

Chips and cracks are basically caused by the shinkage of the concrete . I recommend you to take a look to the American Concrete Institute publication named" Causes,evaluation and repair of cracks in concrete structures" ACI 224.1 R-07. It`s a pretty good paper I used years ago when I got a similar problem.

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Re: Coating for Exterior Concrete

08/18/2009 7:18 AM

Whatever you apply, scabble the surface first, removing all loose, flaky and weakened concrete and leaving a surface into which your repair can key.

I would be inclined to use a bonding agent (usually a PVA based material - ordinary PVA wood glue will work).

Next mix a mortar with some diluted PVA glue (rubber latex also works) instead of water and apply over your steps. Aim for a minimum of 1/2" thick. Too thin and it tends to crack. Keep it damp for as long as possible - preferably a week.

After it has dried, you could coat it with epoxy which will prevent freeze/thaw cracking.

An alternative can be to soak in sodium silicate. This reacts with the free lime from the setting cement and the resultant calcium silicate strengthens the surface and reduces porosity. I have no direct experience with this method and am not sure how well it will withstand freeze/thaw.

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Re: Coating for Exterior Concrete

08/18/2009 3:06 PM

where are you from?

I sell epoxi resin

my email is mmoscati@iol.it

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10/15/2009 1:16 AM

Where are you from?

write me directly to mmoscati@iol.it

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