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Drop Test on PVC Profiles

08/19/2009 10:58 AM

Using ASTM D4495 to test rigid PVC profiles from extrusion. The problem Im having is that very few of the profiles are failing, if only this meant we had a fantastic product haha. The standard calls for room temperature conditioning, and when a 10lb weight strikes the profiles, even from a height of 30 inches, no damage is done as far as failure, denting yes, no cracking though. Ive even increased the weight to 14lbs and nothing. Any ideas short of dropping a bowling ball from the 4th story? Thanks!

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Re: Drop Test on PVC Profiles

08/19/2009 4:36 PM

So, the test sample passes the test and the parts still fail? What is your end product? Who imposed this test? The more meaningful information you give, the better answer you will get.

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Re: Drop Test on PVC Profiles

08/21/2009 7:44 AM

No, the production parts dont fail either. We're trying to develop an impact test for QC purposes, however, if we keep droping without ever finding the limit of when failure will occur, what good is the test, so we're looking to do something more qualitative, although we could calculate the energy. Anyway, the end product is fence profiles. Thanks.

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Re: Drop Test on PVC Profiles

08/20/2009 2:34 AM

PVC greatly changes characteristics with temperature. It is better to do the test at the service temperatures. The new REACH specs have issues with phthalates. May need checking.

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Re: Drop Test on PVC Profiles

08/27/2009 7:51 PM

Typically, drop dart impact testing is done in foot pounds per mil (so two different wall thickness samples from the same materials would be subjected to different pass/fail criteria) - and is used to determine the limits of acceptable ductile or brittle failure modes - you say that "only a few are failing" - actually at the maximum for acceptable failure mode - none should fail - perhaps you are testing at too high a standard to be appropriate (you are just beyond what would be "acceptable") or your testing isn't destructive enough if you are hoping for failure more often?

Too many questions come to mind given your information - how long is the product resting between production and testing; is an annealing process involved to relax stress, how thick is the product in mils? what tup shape are you using? Are you testing for ductile or brittle failure. After the drop dart testing, are you giving it more "real life" type 'whammo' testing - the kind of test when a worker drops it from the truck, or off a roof, in hot and more importantly cold weather?

Also, assuming that dimensions and aesthetics are acceptable at current run conditions - aka you should be doing this testing to failure to parts that are in all other ways acceptable - if not, and you make additional changes, your test results may be suspect or worse, value-less

As stated before, more info equals better answers -

Just my two cents -

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Re: Drop Test on PVC Profiles

01/24/2010 8:18 PM

How did this question ever work out?

thanks

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