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Greenpeace Admits False Warnings About Arctic Melting

08/20/2009 2:23 PM

Is this admission just the 'tip of the iceberg'?

Don't get too hot about it.

Should we not colonize space and stop Global Warming?

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Re: Greenpeace admits false warnings of Arctic melting!

08/20/2009 2:30 PM

What's your source? Is it this?

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Re: Greenpeace admits false warnings of Arctic melting!

08/20/2009 2:32 PM

Not sure about the iceberg statement. His claims were so far beyond those put forward by any responsible scientific organization studying the problem that it's good to see him whacked for it.

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08/20/2009 3:20 PM

I don't care for Greenpeace and have to bite my tongue to defend them. But, this is a "fake" story. Greenpeace had predicted the Arctic would be free of sea ice during the summer by 2030. That is probably nuts. Most reasonable climate scientists predict 2050 +/- 10 years. But, the Hardtalk host asked the Greenpeace director about all ice not just sea ice and then jumped on the answer when the guy tried to explain the difference.

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08/20/2009 6:04 PM

Hi TVP45

Exposing this type of abuse by reporters deserve a GA. They are even worse than politicians.

Take it slow on that love bite Greenpeace might not be worth much pain.

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08/20/2009 6:21 PM

Yes. I don't like their tactics and I don't like their science, but fair's fair. On the other hand, they have more fun than the Pressure Vessel Subcommittee

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08/26/2009 11:02 AM

I'm not buying "Global Warming" as a solely man made occurence. Leif Erickson had farming communities on Greenland 1000 yrs. ago and the carbon emissions were well within limits set by The pressure vessel subcommittee

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08/26/2009 7:30 PM

I don't think anybody except the real wingnuts are saying it's all manmade. Most likely, it's somewhere between 25% and 50%. And, it's not Global Warming that they're talking about, but Climate Change. In some places that means warmer, but in others colder.

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08/26/2009 7:46 PM

TV 25-50% you are much better than that!!! 25% is a HUGE REACH The supporting data seems to follow the available funding!

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08/26/2009 8:34 PM

No, I think the science is pretty clear. You don't have to believe science - some folks don't. But, if you do, the National Academies, NSF, Sigma Xi, APS, etc all believe numbers something like what I stated. If you have any facts showing otherwise, lay 'em on the table and let's see what's what.

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08/26/2009 9:41 PM

With all due respect I think the data may be following the funding The earths climate is not static. THE 1600'S WERE COLD the 1000's were warm climate change is a natural cyclical dynamic I wonder about the BASELINE assumptions when it comes to Human Contribution to climate change Best Regards K

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08/27/2009 6:32 AM

Great. I get that you wonder, but do you have any facts? Please cite some.

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01/31/2010 8:55 PM

Greenpeace as every other science on earth is not correct all of the time & we need to look at the science of anything as it is analyzed,not paying attention to the disinformation spread by employees of the corporations who need their jobs & care not for who is harmed by their lies, although there are some people who care to endanger their jobs & are dismissed & should be rewarded, but they are not. All I can say is that we must wait & see where this science is going before we colonize space to escape the world that we allowed to die before its time due to our negligence.

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08/26/2009 10:00 PM

All I know is that it is getting hotter & dryer & without rain , there will be a shortage of food & the farmers will quit & the corporations will take over another enterprise that they will receive preferential treatment from the government. I already quit farming/ranching because of the lack of rain.

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08/27/2009 6:30 AM

You should do what the big agbusiness outfits do. Show a congressman your fine crop of rocks and convince (campaign contribution) him to pass a bill giving you a subsidy to not grow any more.

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09/17/2009 9:18 PM

Well, BTW I am an ex-farmer/rancher/shepherd & I had to admit a failure when there was no longer any rainfall to sustain any crops enough to feed any livestock.My friends still will not admit defeat & that land is now being used for turd hound grazing & riding mower territory. Soon they will be pumping a flood control lake to sustain what they have created, until it too is dry. Do we admit the truth when we have caused something that is truly irreversible or do we try to reduce CO2 emissions along with air pollution that we HAVE caused that does us quite a bit of harm to everyone. Man surely has caused a lot of damage to the earth & of course he will never admit responsibility till it becomes evident that his ignorance & a failure to think was at fault...

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09/17/2009 10:29 PM

It's a hard thing for any of us to face the truth when it comes on us a little bit at a time. We always think tomorrow will be better. I hope it is, but I'm pretty sure it won't. I'm seeing erosion here the past few years that sometimes in a month equals as much as in two decades before. Somethings out of whack, but I'm not sure what.

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12/03/2009 5:11 PM

I think not as the pollution will be enormous. The price alone will forbid it. Seriously, the dangers that NASA does not tell us about colonizing the moon are really bad & there will be fatalities & those will be unexpected. Are you willing to sacrifice yourself to satisfy your curiosity,I would not be. We must take care of our planet, if we can get everyone to cooperate with a grand plan. I've said too much & need to go cruise my low riding boom box, be cool with my buds & forgot about the world as I will not be around when it goes terribly wrong. NOT

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12/25/2009 9:53 AM

Knowing that our govt is in full control of the nuclear issue, I can see no other way that we can seriously influence anything coming out of Washington for the betterment of civilization. I am surrendering to the forces that be & attempt to live a happy life,"I Promise" to limit how much of my taxes are used for the future of those in power.

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