VILLIER ENGINES - Mark 4

Ooohhhh wow! my first motorbike was powered by a Villiers 10E 197cc two stroke engine...

I use the word 'powered' in the loosest possible sense!!

I have a Villiers handbook from the 60's hold on a tick...

Villiers never made a mark 40 but they made a mark 4F 98 cc two stroke, two speed integral gearbox....

Here we are with a 47 mm bore and 57 mm stroke this engine churns out a spine tingling 2.8 horse power at 4000 rpm...

I have a full service manual in one of my books if you need it...

John.

Double wow. Y'all made me remember my first car, a FIAT Cinquecento-based sports car in which I got a real-world 50 miles per gallon. Man, that was a fun, wacky car. I wish it was still legal to make cars so simple, fixable, fun and cheap.

Of course, that car would come out the loser in a wreck with your Villiers-powered motorbike.

Great Thread!!

I had a wonderful 1970 Fiat 850 Spider that got 60 MPG (real, imperial gallons) from the factory, reducing to 55 MPG at 160,000 miles. Maintenance costs in the entire time, excluding tires, oil, filters and brake linings, were one fuel pump at $12.50.

(The pump died on the road at 5:05 on a Saturday in nowhere, Alberta. We fixed it on the road with a piece of an Esso Credit card. The repair was still working about 10,000 miles later when I figured it was time to put in a new pump. The carb still had the red-white-and blue streaks from the dissolved Esso logo when it was sold. Wish they still made the things!)

I guess that contradicts what I've heard about Fiat. That it stands for Fix It Again Tony. I know little about them other than I once saw a Fiat Topolino with the same Moto Guzzi engine as I have in my motorcycle.

WhooHoo! I can't remember the last time I saw one of those, the motorcycle museum in Brum, probably! Excellent. For the benefit of the other posts, I have an old Guzzi in the shed in bits, ready for the Big Rebuild, and my wife has a Cinqucento that I tried to sell for something a bit more up to date and very nearly got lynched for my trouble! Oh, the Fiat has proven very reliable, so it's obviously one that Mario built midweek!

Villiers did make an MK40

Good to see and here of those who keep everything. My wife gets on me about my library of manuals and books of all sorts of machinery and stuff.....lol.......

In 1972 I had a delightful little NSU car with a similar body shell to a BMW2002, it had a 1000CC engine with a single chain driven overhead camshaft at the back.

It was very noisy but I used to 100 miles to £1.00 of petrol.

HI ya,

I have a few Mk40 villiers plus numerous new spares I picked up when working for a plant hire company. the horsepower is written on the tinware (fan shroud/cover) somewhere. From memory the MK 40 is 5 HP but it might be 3 1/2 HP. or possibly either, MK40 being the engine type rather than size... I'll check when I go home tonight and let you know tomorrow, presuming I remember.

The engine is a small side valve 4stroke aircooled industrial unit with an updraft carby and oil bath aircleaner. stopping is by shorting the tab to the case by the springy steel tab on top. They normally go forever. if it wont start, pull the spark plug out, check the spark and pour a little petrol down the plug hole, open the choke if starting like this. Keep pulling the cord till it starts. Avoid backfires ripping your arm off by holding the starting handle with fingertips only!

I occasionally get my engines out and just run them on idle sitting on the driveway. they just put along doing nothing.. very relaxing to watch.

There is a modernised Japanese copy by Robin and numerous other companies. I have oodles of spares if you need anything.

According to my Villiers books dating back to 1922 they never made a mark 40.... the highest number they went to was a mark 32.

What cc or cu inches is the one you are referring to??

John.

I am guessing you r in australia?, i wud be interested in seing the mk40 engines & spares you have?, george at, www.villiersparts.co.uk

Hi

I definitely have a villiers mark 40 - late 1950's I think on a Howard Yeoman Rotovator. I am in Australia and am chasing a parts / workshop manual as it has seized. Just started blowing clouds of smoke and within 3 minutes it was seized. Still had plenty of oil too??

I have yet to disassemble it but any suggestions as to why would be appreciated.

Regards

Hi, from George in uk, we can help with parts & a manual, try us at.WWW.VILLIERSPARTS.CO.UK

ANSWER, WEAR & TARE?.

Hi

I am searching for a crankshaft and shells to a Villiers mk40 engine.

My engines has number 624B 12811Z 40Hs.

Kenneth

Sweden

I would be interested in a carby. Can't get mine to pull the fuel thru. Please email me on ckts@clear.net.nz if able to help out.

I am registering as jrfenech for future reference.

I looking for some parts for my Mk 40 - do you have an email address I can contact you on?

My email address jrfenech@bigpond.com

Joe.

A mk40 villiers is an industrial 4 stroke side valve.

GL, George shead at, www.villiersparts.co.uk

MK 40 engine is 2.4HP @ 1250RPM and 4.2HP @ 2150 RPM

all this from the manual.....from meetens.co.uk

Tim

Hi, I have Villiers MK40 driving my Howard Yeoman Rotovator...the operating instruction manual gives the following information:

Power Output (Std Engine) 2.4HP at 1250rpm, 4HP at 2000rpm and 4.2HP at 2150rpm.

Power Output (H.S.Engine) 3.3HP at 1500rpm, 4.3Hp at 2000rpm and 4.6HP at 2600rpm.

Hope this helps

John

We in South Africa - Have Mk 40 Villiers on Howard Yeoman. Not operative but engine ok. Jack