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Hydrotest pressure hloding time

11/09/2009 10:00 AM

ASME Sec VIII Div 1 does not specify the duration for which the test pressure is to be held. So a few question arises:

1. Is there a thumb rule for this time?

2. If the pressure is held momentarily and brought down to design pressure, will it serve the purpose of the test?

3. Sec VIII Div 3 specifies a time for holding the test pressure. What is the philosophy behind not specifying it for Div 1 & Div 2?

4. What do other international codes say?

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Re: Hydrotest pressure holding time

11/09/2009 10:47 AM

VIII. Pressure Vessels - Division 1

Basic Coverage

This Division of Section VIII provides requirements applicable to the design, fabrication, inspection, testing, and certification of pressure vessels operating at either internal or external pressures exceeding 15 psig.

Such pressure vessels may be fired or unfired. Specific requirements apply to several classes of material used in pressure vessel construction, and also to fabrication methods such as welding, forging and brazing.

It contains mandatory and non mandatory appendices detailing supplementary design criteria, nondestructive examination and inspection acceptance standards. Rules pertaining to the use of the U, UM and UV Code symbol stamps are also included.

Contents

Scope & Service Restrictions; General Requirements; Requirements for Fabrication by Welding, Forging, or Brazing; Requirements Pertaining to Classes of Materials for Carbon & Low Alloy Steel;Nonferrous Materials; High Alloy Steel; Cast Iron; Clad & Lined Vessels; Cast Ductile Iron Vessels; Ferritic Steels with Tensile Properties Enhanced by Heat Treatment; Layered Construction; High Stresses at Low Temperatures.

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if this is what you are referring to

install a pressure gauge into system if there is none

pressure the system at the design pressure

the design pressure if done right should have safety margin

I would not go over that PSI with out special precautions

check the reading if it drops after 24hrs

you have a leak in the system

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Re: Hydrotest pressure hloding time

11/09/2009 11:24 AM

Basically, from my experience and understanding, the ASME considers two types of hydro static tests:

Strength and Tightness;

Strength test is a 150% of design pressure test which is conducted once in a lifetime.

Thus

Every test after the once in a lifetime is a Tightness test of 110% of design.

Duration of testing: Suffient to verify the objective of the test.

Thus, if you are doing a strength or tightness test the time required for satisfactory results is the time required to do an adequate inspection to certify that the testing. Therefore, the criteria for a vessel is the time required to do the inspection. Vessel pressure must be held test pressure sufficiently long for the inspector to inspect the vessel. Same for a tightness test . . . how long it takes to inspect for leaks.

Note: A written test procedure should define the inspection requirements and may define a hold time.

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11/10/2009 10:02 AM

It is my understanding that the test pressure in the current ASME code is 130% of the vessel design pressure (ASME Section VIII, Design of Unfired Pressure Vessels), having been changed in one of the more recent editions.

This is "off subject," however.

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11/09/2009 10:59 PM

Re 4. What do other international codes say?

Australian Standard AS 4037-1999 says:

AS 4037—1999

17.3.2 Application of test

The test pressure shall not be applied until the fabrication

and its test fluid are at about the same temperature.

The full test pressure shall be maintained for 30 minutes minimum unless otherwise

specified in the application Standard and preferably for one minute per millimetre of

thickness.

Prior to close examination of the vessel or component, the test pressure shall be reduced

to 85–95% of the test pressure and held for sufficient time to perform the examination.

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11/10/2009 3:05 AM

hello,

As per ASME 31.1

For NBEP(Non Boiler External Piping) hydrostatic test pressure (gauge) at any point in the piping system shall not be less than 1.5 times Design Pressure(gauge),but shall not exceed mamximum allowable test pressure for any non-isolated compoent in the system such as valve etc.This should be maintain for minimum 10 minutes.Then reduce Test Pressure to Design Pressure and held it for examination of leakage in the system.

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Re: Hydrotest pressure hloding time

11/10/2009 9:47 AM

Thanks Malcom...that's a piece of useful information.

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07/16/2010 3:26 AM

If ASME B31.3 is applied, what is the minimum holding time? And which pressure should be reduced to perform leak-test?

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07/17/2010 5:41 AM

It's 10 minutes (minimum).

Go through this article. It may help you. http://www.thepetrostreet.com/article_0001.html

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