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Conversion Help - daj/cm^2 to ftlbs/in^2

11/17/2009 10:37 PM

My colleague gave me the following data: (from a charpy impact test, steel at 650C)

11.2 daJ/cm^2

He wants foot pounds/ in^2

if daj is deca joules, then 11.2daj= 112j

if 1cm^2=0.15500013in^2,

and 1j= 0.737562 ftpounds,

then 112*0.737562=82.6ftpounds

divided by 0.15500013in=532.95 ft pounds/in^2

I know this is not correct, and I am certain that I am mucking this up badly. How?

Be kind guys, its late and I'm tired.

And BTW, I'm not a student.This isn't homework.I haven't done charpies in a helluva long time, I did gazillions of tensiles. and mere billions of micros.

What am I doing wrong here? Aint no steel impact testing at 500ftpounds per square inch.

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Yank

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11/18/2009 7:51 AM

Hello Guest

You're not mucking up. I haven't been through your calcs in detail, but converted using Mathcad and get 533 foot pounds/ in^2 as near as makes no difference.

But I'm not familiar with the test, so can't comment whether this is a realistic figure for steel.

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11/18/2009 9:16 AM

Thanks, Now I have to look at the assumptions- are the units right- ie, is Charpy impact ft pounds only or foot pounds per unit area. back to the books... Thanks.

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11/18/2009 12:30 PM

Your conversion appears correct.

I still get a kick out of using the Google calculator, which has the advantage of taking units pretty literally, so if you do an "incorrect" conversion, the units will come back looking very strange... or it won't do the calculation at all. I don't use it routinely, but it remains fun.

You type this into the search window:

11.2 decajoules per square centimeter in foot pounds per square inch

and you get back this:

(11.2 decajoules) per (square centimeter) = 532.947068 foot pounds per (square inch)

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11/18/2009 12:50 PM

Also, the Google calculator "knows" handy constants.

For example, I have been chastised by HHO promoters and "magnet motor" promoters to think outside the box. I've taken their admonishments to heart. My work involves vehicular efficiency, so I now, of course, consider whether it might make sense to move the earth and keep the vehicle still -- thereby using no fuel from the vehicle's tank.

I want to be able to accelerate at 1G. So I type in:

mass of earth x 9.8 m/s/s

and get back:

mass of Earth x 9.8 ((m / s) / s) = 5.854716 × 1025 newtons

The exponent in this happens to be pretty close to my tire's diameter in inches, so I take that as a "sign" and begin work on locating a place for my earth-moving rocket.

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11/19/2009 4:04 AM

Hi Blink

Are you saying the Google calculator knows the mass of Earth but doesn't have g built-in? If so I'm amazed.

But it looks interesting, I must try it sometime.

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11/19/2009 2:34 PM

Funny you should mention it -- because it's interpretation of G or g is interesting.

Google has G built in as the universal gravitational constant (which I use when planning to rearrange the orbits of planets). g, on the other hand, is interpreted as "gram". Play around with this and you get some funny, albeit correct, answers. But gee as in (3 gees give me a headache) doesn't seem to exist for Google. If you spell out "acceleration due to gravity" in a calculation you just get websites.

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11/18/2009 1:45 PM

Thanks,

I still think theres a problem, as I dont think that this is an accurate depiction of the impact properties. maybe if I make the per square inch go away i can get to morerealistic value. now what would the size of an charpy specimen be??? hmm

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11/20/2009 10:26 PM

Hi Milo,

hope you are fine?

I list below the sample sizes used with the Charpy Test, for you to view.

As you know any figures derived, are only 'estimates', because a person is judging the percentages of brittle and ductile simply by the shape of the break.

Whether a fracture was brittle (breaks on a flat plane) and ductile (breaks with jagged edges and shear lips). Or an 'estimate' of somewhere between the two? This is bound to be subjective and could easily vary depending on the persons experience and knowledge of such tests?

The paragraph directly above I wrote for anyone who may not be familiar with this test, (not you of course Milo).

Sample sizes

According to ASTM A370,[9] standard specimen for Charpy impact test is 10mm×10mm×55mm. Sub-size specimen are: 10mm×7.5mm×55mm, 10mm×6.7mm×55mm, 10mm×5mm×55mm, 10mm×3.3mm×55mm, 10mm×2.5mm×55mm. Details of specimen as per ASTM A370 (Standard Test Method and Definitions for Mechanical Testing of Steel Products).

According to EN 10045-1,[7] standard specimen sizes are 10mmx10mmx55mm. Sub-size specimens are: 10mmx7.5mmx55mm and 10mmx5mmx55mm.

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11/30/2009 1:55 PM

Milo,

You are correct in taking into account the sample size. The fracture face is 10mm x 10mm so when you convert that into square inches you get 0.155. When you then multiply that with your 532 ft-lbs/square in, you get the original 82.6, which is the correct number you or your friend are looking for.

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12/01/2009 6:01 AM

Hi Guest,

You may have sent this erroneously. I am not Milo. !!!

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11/18/2009 4:34 PM

Maybe something lost in translation? Could the data have been deci instead of deca joules?

Just a thought.

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11/18/2009 11:45 PM

Hi Guest, come and join us. There is a useful utility called Convert.exe, it's free, just google for it.

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11/19/2009 4:03 AM

Try downloading "Engnet conversion" - very hand little tool.

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