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Viruses In Melting Ice Caps

12/05/2009 10:43 AM

We hear of pollution from glaciers melting and releasing toxic chemicals locked in from many years ago, e.g. dioxins and lead. How about viruses? Can ancient viruses be released by the same process thus appearing as new diseases. Has any work been done on this?

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Re: Viruses In Melting Ice Caps

12/05/2009 1:12 PM

I think there was an X-Files episode devoted to this exact theory. It is a good question though. I imagine that if there is a virus that could survive the extreme cold temperature of the ice caps...we're doomed.

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12/05/2009 2:04 PM

Such viruses that have been locked out of the "evolutionary loop" for a long time may be less likely to have an effect on current life forms. This would mitigate, but not completely eliminate, such concerns. Given the other ways viruses can arise and evolve, this additional source would probably be a small part of the picture, but still worth monitoring. Put it on the list, so to speak, but without panic.

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12/05/2009 6:07 PM

Some viruses survive in ice but others don't. Viruses travel long distances on air, can travel and be deposited in fog rain sleet snow etc.

Here's an abstract from Rogers Starmer and Castello: Recycling of pathogenic microbes through survival on ice.

And another one... viable bacteria and fungi have been recovered from ice, so there's a reasonable expectation that viable virus may also be found in ancient ice. But.. so much ice... such a little virus!

This one is about influenza virus recovered from Siberian lake ice.

Microbial mat communities in Arctic meltwater include viruses, but that is natural, they're not human pathogenic types. Viruses are, apparently, very common and an important part of microbial food webs in aquatic systems.

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12/06/2009 4:48 PM

After the "swine" flu, prepare for the "mammoth" flu... The symptoms include heavy feet, nose elongation and hair growth... Some of us might like this last one.

Are there people paid to imagine new causes of worry?

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12/06/2009 5:10 PM

If I remember correctly, some Chinese emperors had exactly that: professional worriers. (Hei--not my problem!)

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12/06/2009 6:43 PM

Mammoth.. ah the dreaded wooly sock disease. The afflicted could do nothing but huddle next to the TV eating peanuts.. they were too large to leave their houses....

Some people really are paid to imagine new causes for worry - script writers with new ideas for end-o-the-world sci fi movies!!! People will pay to have their socks scared off em. apparently

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12/07/2009 2:10 PM

Very little chance, many viruses have a life time out of their host organism measured in minutes. That's probably just as well otherwise we'd all be dead (or have evolved a much better immune system).

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