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Seeking a little practical advice...

12/18/2009 2:54 PM

So I am beginning the last year of my Electrical/Electronic Engineering Undergrad next spring and I must register for next semester's courses. The available courses are all fairly specialized graduate courses but I want to take a variety of courses to keep as many employment options open as possible.

To the point: I am really interested in radiation and antennas and have registered for the course described below.

The electromagnetic fields radiated by current elements are derived from Maxwell's equations. From these results, the fields radiated by many types of antennas are derived, including various types of dipoles, arrays, aperture, and frequency independent and traveling wave antennas. Concepts introduced include radiation resistance and pattern, directivity, gain, effective area, reciprocity, bandwidth, noise temperature, mutual coupling and array scanning impedance

The question: Am I better of taking a Finite Elements Analysis class instead? I like EM theory and have done transmission lines and waves in free space. Does anyone actual use the above for actual designs anymore? I can get a good qualitative hold on the development of antenna theory on my own.

Of course one professor says one thing and another says another...

Thanks for reading this monster post and any thoughts.

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Re: Seeking a little practical advice...

12/18/2009 3:29 PM

Both are good options. Any decision is taking a gamble but here is my 2 cents worth:

E&M FIELDS: Best choice if you hope to get a job where the job description includes any of the course topics you listed.

FEA: Probably more useful for most people since it "more directly" applies to electronics, thermal, vibration and many other things. Being more general it is probably less impressive sounding, but it is probably more generally useful.

NOTE: I said "more directly" above for a good reason. The more you learn the more you start to recognize that many things are "about the same". Kodak used to use a SPICE electronic circuit analysis package to develop new photographic chemicals. Electrical circuits can be simulated using mechanical components. Many other examples exist. So, E&M Fields has more in common with thermal and vibration that you would initially think. But, it might not be easy to get that point across in a job interview.

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12/18/2009 10:36 PM

Wireless is a hot topic today in automation and process control--cellular, RF, satellite, Zigbee, Bluetooth and all those technologies. Companies are using wireless to transmit control signals, sensor readings, video monitoring systems, access controls, smartgrid meters, security intrusion alarms, and so on. Somebody who understands antenna design and applications would probably have a good chance of finding a job in an industrial company or an OEM. In fact, it's rapidly getting to the point where just about everything is wireless.

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12/18/2009 11:34 PM

Stupid as it may sound, go for what interests you. Simple as that ...

Do one, get hired, get trained for the other if there's need. Jobs are so varied that there's no telling what you'll be working in post-graduation. Plus, almost no employers look at an undergrad's course list when recruiting ...

Good luck! DZ

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12/18/2009 11:56 PM

Stick with EM, it seems you're comfortable with that. Plus everything is going wireless these days and they will all need antennas!

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12/19/2009 9:20 AM

Have you considered PLC (Programmable Logic Controllers) or PAC (Process Automation Controllers), SCADA, etc. These topics will open far more jobs for you than either of the two current considerations.

When you are in high school, one pretty much has the knowledge that computers control the world. But once you learn electricity, engineering degree, hopefully not too much later in life, you figure out second only to computers, PLCs control everything electrical in the world.

Watch this video for a small sample http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4qg10yfp-s

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12/20/2009 2:03 PM

Already he is wired and you made him more confused. Go for one sub which you love, depth knowledge will make every thing. and whatever be the course plc pac fe, there is a master course. so actually it not matters most except personally.

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12/19/2009 10:03 AM

Learning to use a tool like PLCs is a good idea, but his engineering school should have taught PLC programming as a first-year course. One would hope that EE students get a good foundation in software development early on.

If Guest really wants to take a course that will help him (or her) get a job, take Chinese. All the jobs these days are in China and India, but they speak English in India (well, it's the King's English, but pretty close to English). If this is his senior year, he could cram in two semesters of Chinese and have a huge advantage over other graduates. He could either work in China or for an American/European company that's doing business in China (aren't they all?)

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12/20/2009 2:45 PM

All these people telling you to pursue what you like are missing the boat: The job market for engineers is very tough right now. If, for example, you absolutely love auto racing and wanted to be a data acquisition and sensors specialist for Penske or Childress racing, you'd be looking for a job for YEARS! My nephew graduated in June, and he's still looking for anything--sales, service, design, manufacturing, but the job market is dead. So be practical--study something that is in demand, whether you like it or not. Since you like antenna design and wireless is hot, that seems to me to be the best bet. And learn Chinese, too--just enough to be polite and get around China when you go there.

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