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Need some help for an exhibition/ artwork

12/19/2009 8:49 AM

Hi all,

Hope I've come to the right place.

I have an upcoming exhibition and need some engineering assistance with the project. Before I get into it, take a second to read a synopsis of the exhibition. That way you get a general idea of what it's in store.

The exhibition is primarily composed of 100 bucket loads of soil from 100 properties currently on the real estate market throughout Sydney's suburbs. woof!! what a task! I have already gathered most of the soil. In early Jan, I'm going to get pH and EC levels/ soil analysis done on each individual soil sample to determine their general health.After the sampling, the mass of soil accumulated will be poured onto the gallery floor, covering most of it to form a large black square, roughly 4000mm x 4000mm x 10mm high.

So the questions I have for you....eessh!!! Whilst reading below please check out the google sketch image attached, it may help in translating my ideas. Fingers crossed.

Can't seem to scale attached image to a reasonable viewing size. If keen on helping out, let me know and I'll email you the image.

I'm thinking of creating a pressure sensitive floor (PSF) beneath the soil spread out over the gallery floor. The PSF would be composed of 36 different pressure activation box units (PABU) @ 650 x 650mm x 5-10mm high. In these PABUs a push button would be placed in their centre, with a hollow square rubber foam surrounding it, acting as a suspension. The PABU would be encased in a timber frame and its top cover would sit on the rubber foam and would be made of ply or chip...(not sure). Once a certain weight is depressed on the top cover, it would press the push button and activate it. The push button would be hard wired to a multiplex/ matrix keyboard (?).

The multiplex/ matrix keyboard would need to be able to decipher each PABU activation and also capable of receiving separate and simultaneous PABU signals. The multiplex/ matrix keyboard would then send its signals to a computer running a programme that would then activate images. Via a projection, the programme would display a large black cell grid composed of 36 image cells (IC). Each individual IC corresponds to a single PABU. Each IC has ten images stored in its memory, displaying only one image at a time = activation of PABU. For example, anytime an individual PABU is activated, it displays a different image assigned to its IC. As there are 36 ICs and each with 10 images, that would mean 360 images are stored in the program. I really don't know how else to elaborate on this part. See image.

The idea is one thing, the practical application of it another. Does it make sense to you and if so, can I get some general assistance on what would be required for the various components. Including the exact hardware I'd require and software.

If you got time, give it some thought on how I can turn all my silly acronyms into something tangible and in whether there are more efficient ways of achieving the same result.

There are other more attractive alternatives, but extremely expensive and time consuming....check this link http://ame2.asu.edu/projects/floor/

I am a poor artist with a very tight budget.Your help will be greatly appreciated.

Oh, if I've come to the wrong forum. I'll be on my merry way.Cheers

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12/19/2009 9:17 AM

Artists!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You sure take the long route just to display a few pictures.

And what's up with the dirt. Don't you know that someone will be forever tracking the stuff about the exhibit?

Oh well, I guess you are determined to do this, and I have absolutely no appreciation of the arts, so go on with it.

The cat and squirrel and probably the gremlin, not GREMLIN, but sb will no doubt have opinions. Vader may even drop a hint or two. Wrong forum? Nope. There's plenty of wacko artists here who will dive right in. Hum, don't think we have any gophers as members.

Oh well.

Cheers The Omen, stick around.

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12/19/2009 4:32 PM

What's a PABU? What's an IC?

What's the point?

Can't read fuzzy text that accompanies girl walking across pressure button floor.

EC? ph? Oh, Image Cells. ICs. Never heard it put much like that.

What is the idea?

Girls think of things and like heavy shoes?

We remember things when we walk towards other events?

Does not need really to make sense to me.

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12/19/2009 6:00 PM

can send image direct to you if interested. cannot scale image any larger on thread for some reason.

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12/19/2009 6:34 PM

This looks interesting. The basic detail of the floor makes sense. You might want surround each push button with a wood or like spacer to keep the buttons from being pushed too far (also from repeatedly overcompressing the rubber surrounds).

I'm not very familiar with all the discrete-inputs-to-PC possibilities, but I think software like LabView or Think and Do would be well suited to this. Good luck! I wonder how long it will take viewers to realize that their position on the mat dictates where the images appear. Or get enough people to occupy the mat so that all images appear, completing a full picture.

Please keep us posted on the progress of this.

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12/19/2009 8:41 PM

Hi Omen, you may want to consider using Pressure Mats rather than boards and switches. Speak to an alarm company about how much pre-load mats can have.

Alternatively use load cells, not switches, under boards.

I suggest these, as opposed to switches, as calibration is external to the 'box' and mats remove the need for anything but an external frame to contain the dirt.

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12/19/2009 9:20 PM

Interesting idea. These are about 2.6 ft x 1.8 ft, whereas the original design is about 2.1 ft x 2.1 ft for each cell in the floor. They were priced at US$ 40 each x 36 = US$ 1440; plus a simple mat on top. This might be more economical than the wood frame + push buttons + rubber surrounds (and maybe spacers) + top mat.

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12/19/2009 9:35 PM

this sounds so much more efficient! thanks a bundle. I guess i need to look into what the pressure mat load bearing is for activation and if that can be manipulated...any thoughts on that, please let me know.

yes they are a little larger than the desired size as mentioned, but slight overlays or gaps wouldn't be too disastrous.

I also got word from a friend about connecting them to a computer via an arduino http://www.arduino.cc/. Also MAX/ PSP was recommended for the visual programming of the image grid cells.

Any experiences with either?

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12/19/2009 10:09 PM

Alas, my experience with these apps is zilch. I suspect that will be the least of the challenges, though.

One other thing I notice. The projector as illustrated is off axis to the wall. If it projects a rectangular image, it will come out as a trapezoid on the wall. However, if you compensate beforehand by making the pre-projection image trapezoidal in the other direction, it can come out rectangular on the wall.

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12/19/2009 10:13 PM

no worries with the projection, was just an image to illustrate idea.

have no problems installing projectors, was part of my job for quite some time.

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12/19/2009 11:39 PM

Hi Omen. I just assumed this work is in Sydney(?) The DSE link is not the 'only link', nor I suspect the best price - or only size. Overview of how they work, so far as interfacing is concerned;

Presence Sensing Safety Mats | Safety Mat

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I don't think you want overlays, but it's no more drama than having several people wandering about. Equally it is possible to have them cut to size - provided you get someone who knows what they are doing. E.g an alarm installer.

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