Dog Pee Capacitor Zapper

Have you tried a cable tie???

Also you may wany to think about what you had on your feet, a dog with no shoes on may feel more that than a tingle..

Regards,
Sapper

I once peed on an electric fence in some bushes up the bank from a creek on a Boy Scout hike. Hurt and I was waving the thing around. Memorable.

Actually typically when training dogs not to pee or defecate in the house, I would rub their noses in it and take them out for a walk, and praise them for doing their business outside.

While not particularly nice, this seemed effective, and well, I believe it is pretty much a standard training technique.

Truly you may find the poor dog will just get confused and not pee on couch legs with wires on them otherwise.

aye, rubbed noses, caught in the act several times too, used vinegar and also tried numerous cocktails and suggestions from dog "doctors"...figured the electronic genius in me might try a "pee zapper" (after a suggestion from the missus) and wondered if anyone else may have tried the same.

The wires will be barely visible as the legs are turned and have nice slots to fit and hide any wire. Will post results in a few days with a few pics and a happy snap of the culprit.

Boy, if the standard operating procedure didn't work, I guess the zap might.

Dog must have some real territorial imperative.

Once on my grandmothers farm a visiting friend of hers dog did the same thing on the electric fence and it killed it. Drop right to the ground. So I would watch doing it in the bushes. I also would not use electric shock as it can have unknown consequences. You never know a visiting friend may spill something and get zapped end their life. Each of us is different what one body can easily handle another can't.

point taken...the voltage and power stored in the caps is a bare minimal...i contact terminals on my tongue and get a tingle slightly weaker than a 6 volt lantern battery. Even peed on one to demonstrate the working concept :D

I agree with you on that method as I have had German Shepherd's most of my life. My latest one is 16 weeks old. Dogs do not like their own mess. Took about a week of rubbing her nose in it and she got the point. Training is the key to any dog.

Yeah Shepherd learn well don't they. My Cassie would try to pee when I took her out side at night, even if she didn't feel the need. They are very bright pups.

Besides, pain or violence doesn't work and an electric shock could make the dog frightened to pee anywhere. Maybe a dog behaviouist is required.

Try pethealth.com.au.

We have always used the tried and true old time method of catch them in the act and kick them in the nuts hard enough to give them a reason to remember. We have never had any dog relapse after that.

It also works well on people who don't learn something fast enough too!

A Sears electric fence machine set to stun instead of kill or a Red Rider BB gun or an airsoft pistol.

Have you tried (loosely) strapping the two legs together?

If he can still cock one leg up - rent him to a circus.

jt.

I'm a very complicated fellow; some times I'm nice, and
some times I'm nasty.

"after a suggestion from the missus"

Sounds like you may be well trained! Forget all the zapping. You just need to have a man to man conversation with your dog.

Reminds me of the story about an elderly woman in an old house whose dog would howl when the phone rang! He was chained to the home's old ground pole, and felt the current through the chain when the phone signal came over the line!

FYI:

On a good old fashioned POTS phone line, when a phone is ringing, the phone company CO (switch) is sending about 90 Volts @ 20 Hz. down the wire.

That's a substantial voltage...

I recall a time long ago when I was wiring up an extension phone in my parent's home, that I was unfortunate enough to be stripping a phone wire with my teeth as someone called my parents house. OUCH!

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Just my $0.02...

My advice . . . give up . . . take the dog the way he is . . . nothing . . . I repeat nothing is going to change him . . . he is like a computer program with a bug . . . but his is permanent. I have had some success by having an OUTSIDE dog. Put the outside dog in a fenced off area in the yard, might be just a temporary fence . . . but once the outside dog begans to claim his territory . . . the inside dog will save it up to mark over the outside dog. Might try getting one of those hunter scents . . . like deer urine/musk . . . the dog might take the hint and claim over the deer. Might also try getting a female spayed dog that is house trained . . . she will mark outside . . . hey he might just follow her. One thing though . . . it is a matter of being alert to the dog . . . I know . . . impossible if you work and the dog is inside . . . but it is a convenience thing for him. So if you watch him and take him outside it will help, but will not cure the problem. You are going to have the urine problem the rest of the dogs life.

Neutering normally works if it hasn't been done already. If he is of an age to start marking territory and looking for females...well that behaviour won't change without it. This is also why I have only had female dogs for the paste 15 yrs. or so.

.22 caliber or larger would do it. Take him outside first, though - it gets messy.

I had a major problem with a German Shepherd peeing and crapping on my lawn, leaving a huge mess.

It's even worse now as his dog's started doing it as well!

I have an electric garden dog fence that uses two D cell batteries. It has been very effective at keeping our dogs in our yard and keeping the neighbor's dog from attacking our dogs. It has driven off the cats and rabbits as well. No deaths as of yet. I strung mine with a pattern of one neg wire then one pos wire then on neg wire and finally another pos wire. The neg on the bottom is almost laying on the ground. The batteries do have to be replaced every month. It cycles instead of being on continuously. It gives a good enough zap that they won't go near it and I haven't had to put in new batteries in months (it has been there for a year).

I would suggest placing a neg on the floor under a conductive floor mat and running the pos on the legs of the chair for the most effect zap.

The only thing I can add to this excellent post is: You must take the time to be there when the dog does his duty in doors. If you are not available to be there, put the dog in the crate, or leave the dog outside. (Note they may go in the crate, so be careful with that.)

A couple of corrections at the key moment will train the dog that this is unacceptable behavior. IF:

1) You catch the dog in the act

2) You forcefully (not meanly), but forcefully say "NO!". If he doesn't know what "no" means - that's something he must learn. Do that by walking the dog on a lead, sitting, heeling, etc. using "no" when inappropriate behavior is performed with a correction.

So take the time. Invest the time. You'll have a better dog.

Hey CraziestOzzy!!!

You may want to do what my wife and I have done here, and that is to buy a dog collar that can zap the poor begger when he decides to take a wizzzz on your furniture or carpets. You can buy them in Ebay for a good price. Some (like we purhased) come with a remote control so that you can either send out a signal to to initiate a loud beep or shock the dog's neck. The collar uses to 2 shorty AA batteries (find them on Ebay as well) and features two electrodes. Also, it's great for correcting excessive barking too! Now, my 5 Border Collies and a Welsh Pembroke Corgi (all fixed) are very obedient, rarely bark inside, wiz or dump on the floor carpet of kitchen tile floor, don't jump on visitor's, don't rip up anything other than their play toys and real cow bones, and now are just well behaved overall! In the past we spent hundred's of $$$ for obdience training,----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- which ended up being pretty much useless and a huge waste of time & money in my estimation!!!!! The zapper collar works very well and it won't hurt them! If I feel that a dog is falling back into old bad habits, then I just have to show any of them the "collar", and they behave wike good-mannered kids again! *LOL* Hell, just the sight of it freaks them out and I don't even have to put in on them!!!*LOL*

I've tried everythng else like Soft Air BB's and what not, and they only work a short period of time....it was getting to the point where I was about to drag out some of the "baddies" into the nearby woods and place a .306 round into each of their brains! Yes, that's how close I came to really zapping a pooch or two before I bought a dog zapper collar!

Good luck with your mutt!!! Also, may want to "snip" the little bugger's nutz...that'll go a long way to fixing his nasty habit!!

Have a great sunny day!

hello CaptMoosie, I gave you a GA.

I have used the same type of device. It worked real good on my young Belgian Malinois "shepherd". I had an older lab, that i had trained from a pup. The Malinois was around 6 mo old when we got her. Smart and head strong "trying to be the alpha", normal training worked for most things until she tried being boss, then the lab tried to intervene to prevent the punishment/ correction especially outside.

The collar worked good, giving the voice command the lab would follow, the Malinois would some times if close but further out would most likely not. The tone then shock to correct worked good. It did not take her long to realize the command to follow or the tone/shock would come otherwise. And yes treats were used on good commands.

After a period of time I had stopped changing batteries as offend and she learned that she could get a way by not doing the commands because the collar did not work. It took about six months or so of training to not need the collar. Like you said the act of putting the collar on or even getting it out was all it took. Even to this date just using a tone beeper is all i need to get her to follow commands.

You can even train to different tone patterns to follow commands. Which works good at distance, saves your voice.

Charles

Scent & a Positive conditioned response are the main training & driving methods for all animals and your dog is perhaps remarking his territory. Electric shocking & such may be effective to a limited degree with less effective responses. His scent tells other animals just where his boundary is at & a positive conditioned response is when you give something for his positive actions and do nothing that would give positive attention to their rather negative actions. Violence is often not completely understood without proper options first available. The positive is more desirable for your friends to be around as well & generally is more effective in animals like Pets , with which we have affections to be maintained. A litter box for him to use, will develop his scent in it and might serve his needs while keeping him from soiling your furniture.

Also I would change the scent of the furniture to something he does not recognize any longer as his , as well as all soiled areas. Use a product found at http://www.dopestcontrolyourself.com called Consume. I own this company & I know the product well , as one that will remove the smells you speak of very effectively. It has a living enzyme in it that eats the odor & then the enzyme biodegrades after its meal. Pets can often detect scents much fainter than you may be able to do, so very often more than one treatment , of the soiled locations, will be required to change their habits.

Also you can use this same product after washing the litter box out , at the 1% strength & allow it to dry. This will remove enough scent that you can be in the room with it but, the pet can still smell it for knowledge of his spot to relieve himself at & mark. I might also add a containment area to his walls & floor, just incase he misses , as you may know , standing & going is not always point on.

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It's time to change from an "inside" dog to an "outside" dog.

Have you tried just explaining your expectations to the dog? Sometimes we get distracted by trying to formulate a technological solution. You may not be expressing yourself calmly and clearly, which is understandable after a couple of whizzings on your furniture. Usually just a verbal expression of your displeasure in the context of his latest accident will show him what you expect. Of course if there have been a lot of accidents, the whole area may be permeated to the point that holding his nose to his latest won't mean much. If this is the case, you may want to use an audible alarm to train him before buying new furniture.

An audible alarm would be much simpler and safer than a shocking aparatus. Also, the fire danger is much less. All you would need would be a couple of electrodes and an audio oscillator. Set the frequency to the higher ranges that dogs dislike.

two things:

1. What is the dog doing inside?

2. Do you know anything about training a dog?

I have an alternative idea.

Place your dog in a room with a nice size flat screen TV high enough up so it can not get at it, and a good sound system, at least 5.1 surround. Then play nothing but episodes of Rin Tin Tin, Lassie or the Littlest Hobo 24/7. Did you ever see any of them taking a wiz on the furniture? Either it will learn by example or it will be so brain dead from the plot lines that it will not even know how to lift its leg.

Frankly I thought Pauls_14 post was the best as most through, and I had forgotten about using the dog crate inside as a tactic I have seen some others use.

I have often thought of the same thing! But I have never done it. I have several German Shepherd bitches and one (1) German Shepherd male who doe the same thing to my chair when a bitch is in season. I have never caught him in the act.

The proper thing is to NOT rub their noses in it - that really does nothing and is a bit unsanitary. The best way to stop the behaviour is to catch him just as he begins the act and shout "Pfui!" very loud. Take him outside and walk him around until he is finished, then walk him a bit more. Be sure to praise him when he does what he is supposed to do.

Sound good? Sure it does until it happens and you cannot catch him! Dogs do not respond as quickly to negative reinforcement (correction) as they do for positive reinforcement (praise) for simple behavioural matters such as this. Dogs also do not have a sense of the past, so they cannot be corrected for something done in the past. It has to be caught in the beginning - not midway through.

And, if I ever do manage to catch that pissing male......

Best Regards,

Ing. Robert Forbus

"pfui"? As in Del is a pheline?

Beriberi, yes; just that. It is the accepted German version of the expression "Fooey!" and is used for the training of dogs. We try not to use common words such as "no", "nein", "nie", etc. as they may confuse the dog when it hears our normal speech.

Best Regards,

Ing. Robert Forbus

Have you tired peeing on the dog and/or his stuff? Pee denotes ownership, let him know who the top dog really is... I know your bladder is bigger than his, and since you're a crazy 'ozzy' the extra beer consumption required to insure an adequate pee supply shouldn't be a problem...

Had same problem with 3yr old German Shepherd. Tried all the proper training( this is my 3rd Shepherd), also used tin foil on areas(they do not like the noise of peeing on it). Tried restricting his water intake to 1oz per lb. per the Vet. Vet ran all the medical test and found no problems. Changed Vets and this one did more research and said it was a behavioural issue and put him on Amitriptyline 75mg every 12 hours. After 3day this problem was solved and his is a much better dog. Vet said no real issue of keeping him on this med. The cost is very cheap about $8 for qty. of 120.

Talk to any dog trainer rubbing their noses in it is not the answer. But have you tried putting pepper around the legs white, red, black what ever blends into the flooring. It upsets them deeply when they sniff the area, they then learn not to PEE there.

Best of luck.

Taz

I've used this method for cats in my garden... I used cayenne powder, definitely discouraging to those what sniff before they pee, and apt to cause irritation to little feet discouraging them from coming into the garden...

GA Taz

G'day, try training you pooch to only pee outside. It isn't hard, just tedious. For a puppy, you need to get up every two hours in the night and take the dog outside and "praise" it, whether it does anything or not. Do this during the day as well, constantly praising the pooch for going outside.

DO NOT punish the pup for peeing inside. If it does, take it outside immediately and praise it for going outside.

The electrical shock will only confuse the dog and maybe stuff its head up completely, (maybe the heat's done that already). It is also cruel as maybe the dogs dick isn't desensitied from too much w*nking.

RRV

Cesar Millan. With a mere look and a PPpppSSSSssTt, he can have your dog peeing on anything or nothing at all.

Are you kidding?

First off, 6 volts is not enough to give you any type of a tingle unless of course it's AC. Second, if you use a higher voltage you must ensure the current is low. It doesn't take much to stop a heart, few hundred milliamps I believe.

Third, your idea would not and could not work because both contacts would need to be touching you or you would need a path to ground in which case it would take much more then 6 volts to do anything.