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Airline Logistics.....

12/31/2009 11:31 PM

Something I have wondered about for a few years -

If I had unlimited funds, a jet at my disposal and 2 cases of fine Champagne, could I start in the Pacific and celebrate New Year's Eve in all 24 time zones??

I'm wondering if it would be physically possible with airline flight times, take-off/landing time, with possible compatible airport landing strips.

As I sit ready to pop a bottle in about an hour-and-half, I'm wondering if I can add this to my bucket list or is it physically impossible??

Happy New Year to all!!!! ss

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01/01/2010 12:15 AM

The circumference of the earth is about 24,900 miles. To keep pace with time zones, you need an aircraft capable of 24,900/24 ≈ 1038 mph, which is supersonic. However, if you do this within a sufficiently small radius of either pole, you can go a lot slower.

(One mile south, one mile west, shoot a bear, one mile north, back where you started; what color is the bear? You could even do this on foot! Or even one foot.)

Na zdorovye! (24x)

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01/01/2010 6:53 AM

Of course the advantage of doing this at the poles is that the champagne keeps on ice. Maybe even need to be careful it doesn't freeze. Imagine having to make a fire so as to keep the champagne at the right temperature. And you would be contributing to the melting of the ice caps. might be better to stay in just the one time zone at home after all that.

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01/01/2010 11:45 AM

Physically possible?..... I'm in no mood to do the math myself, but at say 13% alcohol in the champagne, 24 X 26 oz bottles, and an undetermined rate of release of alcohol into the unknown volume of your bloodstream, what is the blood alcohol level of the consumer of a glass or a bottle of champagne every hour for 24 hours?

Will you be having oysters with that?

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01/01/2010 8:29 PM

I think the thought of 24 bottles was to pop one in each time zone. Consuming the entire bottle each time...different story!!!!

You are correct in worrying about my liver! ss

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01/01/2010 10:58 PM

Sid came up up with half a good answer. The trick would be to fly at a distance from a pole that would allow you to cross 15 degrees of latitude (360/24) per hour. That's assuming that time zones all stretch to a pole and are of equal width up there (which they aren't).

That being said ... to be able to pass through all of these time zones in solar synchrony, you'd have to either stay 23 hours in the air (you don't have to stay the 24th because you've already toasted the start of the next time zone ) which is currently impossible for commercial jets. That being said ... if you could land the jet, refuel it, get it back in the airm, and high-tail it to celebrate the next midnight at the time-zone transition, you just might be able to pull it off.

I won't do the math (finding at what latitude one would need to be to do 15 degrees of longitude per hour at typical jet speeds), nor will I see if there are any convenient airports at those two latitudes (which is unlikely in the Southern Hemisphere), which I leave to you.

By the way ... a trick! To increase your jet's 'degrees of longitude per hour' maximum speed, head closer to a pole. That'll might make it possible to catch up the time spent during a fast refuelling, who knows.

Cheers! And Happy New Year. DZ

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01/02/2010 12:01 AM

OK, all well taken. I'd love to look a a map and think of point A, B, C,.......X (I think that is 24) of where I could fly into an land at a city more than a speck on a map to pop my bottle to celebrate before I jet off to the next one..

NEVER will I be able to do it, but I LOVE to dream!!

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01/02/2010 11:15 AM

No one said he had to have a strictly commercial jet...With unlimited monies, I bet he could arrange midair refueling for someone or another's jet....23 hours in the air...no worries mate! Might even be able to have a supplementary liver on call.... 8o) Hope all of you had a GREAT New Years Eve & have a wonderful, safe, healthy & successful 2010!

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01/02/2010 12:26 AM

Try Googling "double sunrise flight" and two new years one around the north pole in darkness, next year in sunlight around the south pole. The Catelina served in an unrepeatable scheduled longest duration 28 hours across the equator, youould be colder!

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01/02/2010 12:40 AM

If you have the jet at your disposal, there is no need to worry about flight schedules. This is eminently possible and is the basis for my bar bet that I can put 36 hours of productive work and at least 8 hours of rest into any given single day the bettor chooses. I will need to be working and sleeping on the aircraft flying westward. Start in the Western Pacific and end in Hawaii. I cannot do it two days in a row, the second day will be very short.

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01/02/2010 6:49 AM

Ah yes, you can buy time by using the international date line.. but I believe it's a two hour flight from Hawaii to Fiji, and a good two hours from Fiji to NZ.

You'd have to choose your destination cities pretty carefully to avoid the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans, or you will not be landing somewhere every hour.

Maybe Tornado's solution is the only one! Thanks to ice of course.. better hurry if you want to do this in the Arctic.

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01/02/2010 4:01 PM

I need to modify my answer. If you are closer to the North Pole than the Arctic Circle, it will be constant night--no sunrises. (All day near the South Pole--still no sunrises.)

(24,900 sin 23.5°)/24 ≈ 414 mph. New Year's Eve is not precisely the solstice, so in each case you could be a bit inside the (Ant)Arctic Circle. Bon voyage et appetit!

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