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Decentralization of Electrical Power Production

01/06/2010 11:25 PM

The US power grid is vulnerability to both natural and manmade disruption. The cost, vulnerability, and environmental impact of the distribution system would far outweigh any advantage in the efficiency of scaled electrical power production if small, efficient, and cost effective systems could be made available. Because of the centralize nature of our electrical power production and distribution systems; disruptions tend to affect hundreds, thousands, and sometimes millions of customers. The inherent nature of these centralized systems leaves us vulnerable to catastrophic failures and unneccessary infrastructure costs.

Natural Gas is relatively clean, readily available, and comes with an ever expanding, safe, and relatively secure distribution system; yet we fail to utilize it to even a small part of its potential.

Because of the existing and ever expanding distribution system; Natural Gas could provide a means of making our electrical power supply much less vulnerable to the natural disasters that occur on a regular basis as well as the potential man-made disasters that have catastrophic potential.

Natural Gas Fueled Micro-Turbine, Reciprocating, and Sterling cycle technology when combined with Power Averaging Processes would allow us to decentralize our power distribution system and thus secure our electrical energy supply and distribution systems. Such technology would also allow for greatly reduced supply infrastructure cost, complexity and greatly reducing future electrical distribution infrastructure growth.

Millions of US homes are served by underground Natural Gas pipelines. These pipelines are much less vulnerable to natural, accidental, or intentional disruption. These pipelines could serve as supply lines for internal combustion powered generation systems that power individual or co-operative residences where costs are shared based on metered power use. Widespread use of such decentralized systems would make our electrical power systems nearly invulnerable to widespread disruption do to natural and man made events.

What are the technological challenges of introducing such systems?

What kind of start up costs could be expected given wide scale application?

What kind of combustion energy to end use efficiencies could be expected?

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Re: Decentralization of Electrical Power Production

01/07/2010 4:01 AM

The unmetered resources are getting attention now...

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Re: Decentralization of Electrical Power Production

01/07/2010 7:42 AM

Reduction of consumption by reducing on-time and by substituting more efficient loads are the decentralised means of reducing vulnerability at minimal outlay.

Reducing the load on-time is of highest priority.

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Re: Decentralization of Electrical Power Production

01/07/2010 10:49 PM

"Reducing the load on-time is of highest priority."

What does "load on-time" mean?

My house uses about 800 KWH a month. That is somewhere around 27 KWH a day. This makes my average load about 1.25 KW.

This means that by using a constant output prime mover and using a storage device to supply peak demand I could power my home with an Turbine, Reciprocating, or Stirling prime mover putting out a continuous power of less than 2 KW. By recovering the heat losses in the prime mover for space heating and water heating the electrical demand could be further reduced. In the summer the recovered heat could be used to power the air conditioning unit.

Would it be possible to use a large flywheel to store energy for peak power? Because the flywheel can be very large would this reduce the need to use high tensile strength material in its construction?

This "series" process would have the flywheel hydraulically coupled to the prime mover with a generator on the output side of the flywheel.

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Re: Decentralization of Electrical Power Production

01/07/2010 11:55 PM

Gavilan-

Unfortunately, "average" consumption is pretty misleading, and you really need to know your peak demand and the time duration during your "average" day when you are drawing at peak demand, to size a power system. You might only use 27 kW-hr per day, but you could well see a peak demand of maybe 10 kW for 2 hours in the day, and the rest of the day something like 1 kW, then some fraction of a kW during the sleeping hours.

You could probably run this house on a 10kW generator (natural gas powered- they are available), but to store enough energy to store the 20 kW-hr you draw during your peak usage would require a pretty big (i.e., massive) flywheel.

Natural gas is a reasonably good fuel for generating electricity on a small scale, if you have a delivery system in place. If you have to store fuel between bulk deliveries, however, natural gas loses a lot of its attractiveness, because of the volume of fuel you would have to store....

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Re: Decentralization of Electrical Power Production

01/08/2010 2:26 AM

well!!! Actually decentralization of power generation comes under the smart grid technology (automaton of smart grid) and in this technology we are planning to use smart meter, renewable energy resources, and communication system over power lines and automated power system able for self healing, management, fault location,identification and all that. Use of distributed generation technology means we will inject power in any node of distribution network for that we will have to think over the load control, penetration level of distributed generation, and security of power system. can we achieve this smart system using digital signal processing system? i want to know how should we proceed for it? thanking you

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Re: Decentralization of Electrical Power Production

01/08/2010 11:33 AM

Energy / power is a saleable, augmentative, constantly demanded gadget requiring centralized control. It will be more worthy to be managed as a centralized sector for total control and co ordination. Like tax collection revenues, energy supply revenues will also fall in same line.

The success lies on promising low cost generation greener technologies and managing profitable service returns without subsidies like TAX systems.

Decentralization can be applied for generation and selling to Centre controlled distribution and not for any independent operation.

That is the only way for ensuring a good and successful way of public service, returns and benefit back to society and not to private competitions.

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Re: Decentralization of Electrical Power Production

01/11/2010 10:50 AM

This would solve the worlds power problems for every one

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/3377/Free_Energy___No_Fuel_Magnetic_Motor/

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Re: Decentralization of Electrical Power Production

01/11/2010 3:00 PM

Here's a proper link

I'm not sure how this scam is going to solve the worlds energy problems?

A bad video & no supporting data, isn't an innovation...

at least attempt to bullshit us

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