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ATV61 Problem

02/01/2007 6:14 AM

Hello,

I have a problem with an ATV61 frequency converter of 22kW provided with a controller inside card. The reference for drive come from an analog output of an PLC, and the commands comes on the drive terminals from the same PLC. The motor parameter are: In=38.8A, n=1485rpm, U=400V, CLi (current limitation)=47A. When I start the motor (in load) the message CLi appear and remain all the time up to I stop the motor.

With the same motor but with other frequency converter - with the same parameters - the motor run OK. The reference for the drive it's from other analog output of the same PLC.

I start the motor from her operator panel and I increase and I decrease the reference. For a greater than reference of 1Hz the drive message it's "CLi - Current limitation". I don't know what I can do. It's anybody which can help me?

Thank you anyway!

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Re: ATV61 problem

02/01/2007 9:09 AM

Does the CLi remain all through out until you stop it? What frequency are you using? I've encountered something like this (Telemecanique though a different model). The current when the output frequency is low is quite high. As the frequency increases, the current goes down. There's a certain threshold (can't remember the frequency) when the current starts to go down.

If you're operating your motor below this frequency, your current will increase, possibly up to the current limit. Furthermore, operating the motor at too low frequencies will degrade the effect of the cooling fan. If you operate at low frequencies, an auxillary cooling fan is mandatory.

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Re: ATV61 problem

02/01/2007 9:35 AM

The frequency reference is between 40Hz and 50Hz. At 50Hz the current is aprox. 47A greater than motor rated current which it's 38.8A. The CLi message apper in the same time with a start command and remain all through out I stop it.

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Re: ATV61 problem

02/01/2007 8:32 PM

Can you send all the parameter values for the drive? I know, there are several pages of parameters but I suspect there may be something that needs changing.

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Re: ATV61 problem

02/02/2007 1:11 AM

Sorry, but i'm not on installation. The problem was apper a few days ago, and the client has call me to give her a solution. I talk with somebody from Schneider service (Romania) but I have not an answer. If you know any parameter which can perturbe please told me. Anyway the solution it's to go there next week to see what is happening. Thank you

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Re: ATV61 Problem

02/02/2007 4:16 AM

I just read this thread and haven't got a solution to your problem at the moment but I have the feeling that I have seen a similar problem somewhere else. I just can't remember when or where at the moment. At any rate I would be interested to know what you ultimately find so when you do solve the problem please don't forget to post the answer.

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Re: ATV61 Problem

02/23/2007 3:58 AM

Hello,

I gave the ATV to Schneider service and they give me next answer "IGBT bridge fault". So, hardware problem...

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Re: ATV61 Problem

02/06/2007 12:30 AM

I had similar problems with ATV 61s and ATV 71s. On one of them I spent 600+ minutes (all of my cell phone time for the month) with Schneider Tech Support and they could not figure it out. I say junk it now before you waste any more time and buy a different VFD. I hate the ATVs.

On one of my jobs I bought an ABB ACS-550 and it was up and running with exactly the same controls in 30 minutes. Now I use Siemens M440 Master Drives and have them up and running in 10 minutes. Never had another problem with either of those brands.

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