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ESP

03/05/2010 11:19 PM

Dear all,

I am searching for a complete manual which covers the entire detailed procedure of erection of esp, mechanical and electrical pre-check-ups( before and after charging of esp), pre-commissioning checks and complete commissioning procedures of esp for 600MW coal based power plant, and also i want the design procedure and efficiency calculations of esp for the same esp,can any one help me in this please.

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#1

Re: ESP

03/06/2010 12:01 AM

I've got it all. Just finished one yesterday. Where should I send it?

Sorry. Just kidding. I don't even know what a (or an) ESP is.

Is it:

Extrasensory perception - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Re: ESP

03/06/2010 12:04 AM

thanks for your help and reply sir.

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Re: ESP

03/08/2010 1:59 AM

Dear Sir,

I am student i need to know more about ESP, whatever the details available with kindly forward to me i am study for on this subject.

advance thanks for your support and co-operation please.

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03/06/2010 1:19 AM

its ok, let it be my mistake, esp in power plant means electro static precipitator used for removing the ash contents from the fly ash which will be coming from boiler after burning the coal for the power plant

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Re: ESP

03/06/2010 1:15 AM

The only person that can help you are the OEMs

The manuals provided are upto the task of entire detailed procedure of erection of esp, mechanical and electrical pre-check-ups( before and after charging of esp), pre-commissioning checks and complete commissioning procedures of esp.

(It is Electrostatic precipitator right?)

i want the design procedure - definitely will not be given by OEM.

efficiency calculations - capture efficiency ? you can ask and they will give you a value, even prove it on field but calculation procedure? I doubt.

(BTW- I belong to one of them )

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Re: ESP

03/06/2010 3:20 AM

Your equipment supplier is from China (at least your website says that) ? You are unlikely to get the details. Currently we are, unfortunately, about to commission one machine from there (no, not power generating equipment) and well since it is under commissioning we are able to have a look at the quality of components that had gone into it

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03/06/2010 3:52 AM

thank you

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03/07/2010 2:29 AM

Buy cheaper products from China and then cry .

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03/07/2010 1:55 PM

Re your signature: In the US, 'passing out' refers to the loss of consciousness, commonly due to excessive alcohol consumption. I suggest you use the term 'graduating'.

Check spelling of 'college'

I agree with your post!

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03/08/2010 5:45 AM

Mr.D.K.Warner,

Thanks for corrections, I have already corrected my profile.

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03/08/2010 5:06 AM

http://www.2point6billion.com/news/2010/02/09/india-seeks-back-up-for-chinese-power-equipment-4016.html

Feb. 9 – The Indian Prime Minister's Office has ordered the Power Ministry to propose a back-up plan to guarantee an adequate support mechanism for Chinese power generation equipment sold to India.

India will be using Chinese power equipment to generate 21,519 MW of capacity while orders for another batch of 14,000 MW capacity equipment have been placed for future projects. There have been questions raised on the reliability and quality of Chinese-made power generation equipment.

The Indian tenders for power generation equipment were won by Chinese state-owned equipment companies including Dongfang Electric Corporation, Shanghai Electric and Harbin Power Equipment Company Ltd and Sepco.

West Bengal Power Development Corporation's 300 MW Sagardighi project and Sterlite Industries-run Balco's 540-MW captive plant using Chinese made equipment are among the big projects that have faced operational difficulties reports The Hindu.

http://www.businessworld.in/bw/2010_01_16_Chinas_Power_Play.html?storyInSinglePage=true

The Question Of Quality
Although Indian private sector power producers have taken an instant liking to the Chinese companies, the reliability of bulk-produced, standardised equipment has been questioned. While performance of smaller sets (500 MW and below) in India have already come under government scrutiny, there are growing concerns over the performance of higher-end supercritical sets (660 MW and above).
Some of this may have a direct bearing on the output of the plant, also called plant load factor (PLF, a plant's output in a year). For instance, Chinese plants on an average already have a lower PLF, between 64 and 69 per cent, while in India this ranges between 73 and 87 per cent. Further, the annual planned shutdown for the maintenance of a plant based on Chinese equipment is 35 days against an Indian average of 22 days.
"Have Indian companies placing orders with Chinese power equipment companies ensured that they can deliver in Indian conditions?" questions D.V. Kapoor, former chairman of NTPC and director of Reliance Industries. "I am not against imports, but have they (Indian companies) got performance guarantees?"

"Then why are companies coming back to us?" asks BHEL's Rao. In the past nine months, some power companies have decided not to go with Chinese manufacturers. An executive from Videocon Power confirmed that initially they were in talks with Chinese firms, but have now decided to go to BHEL.
Ninety per cent of the orders worth 11,400-MW placed since April 2009 have moved to BHEL, says Rao. "Companies that had initially planned orders with the Chinese firms are now coming to us," he adds. However, he did not reveal the names of these companies

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03/08/2010 5:49 AM

Hi Guest,

Thanks for en lighting us on the subject.

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Re: ESP

03/08/2010 8:11 AM

I have to agree with the comment submitted by "Guest" regarding the supply of the requested information. In my business we supply ESPs on our process equipment and part of the delivery specifications to the suppliers are for the supply of little things like erection instructions, an erection supervisor, training and commissioning support (both mechanical and electrical).

If you purchased such a unit without these services then you are up the proverbial tributary with no means of locomotion!!! You have no option but to contact your equipment supplier and pay dearly for the services you did not specify in the first place.

Hopefully you will remember this next time...

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Re: ESP

03/08/2010 6:36 PM

do you mean "Electrical Submersible Pump"?

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