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Identity Theft

03/17/2010 2:14 AM

How did we ever as American citizens let the credit card people, the banks and all of the other financial institutions that we deal with make this credit fraud our problem? I mean we did not do it someone did it to us so should not the person that accept the information is stolen card be held accountable? Seems to me like it should be. I was in the retail business for years and had clerks take bogus money and when it went to the bank guess who got the axe? I even had a boggie $20.00 that wasn't really that bad but, rather than loose the $20.00 I carried it around for a couple of weeks and then used it in a fast food store.. Would you not know it the cashier had just gone to a class on funny money and called the treasury department and man were they there in the blinking of an eye.. After the two step boogy in the parking lot I was up against the truck and had everything but a cavity search.. Then was ask to search my truck, of course if I said no they were going to impound it and God only knows what would have happened then.. Found my 9mm under the front seat. Had a Florida Permit and was returned after it was man handled by a couple of people and passed around. Their demeanor was fairly polite as I think they believed that I was not a counterfitter.. The dance proceeded for a good hour all my stuff in the parking lot he asked my 100 questions, drivers license number kind of cars I owned etc.. Final work was that I would not hear from them again unless I passed another bogey bill because I had been placed on their list? I got a way a little from my original issue. Why should we as the American public be burdened with their problems? They the financial institutions, retailers, wholesaler's etc should take the responsibility to find out who these people are. What is the difference between getting the cash through an internet sale or walking into the bank and using what ever credentials to get it out of our account? There is none but, the bank is responsible if it does not give it to the right person. Last month I had three charges on my debit card 2 charges for 14.00 each to Skye from Iraq and another for 24.00 for a phone card from Iraq. Now I am not a rocket scientist but, if I saw those charges coming across a farmers account that has never left the country and those three charges almost emptied his account I would scratch my head and start looking.. Well I did first and they told me I had to do this and I had to to that and at this point I said I want to report a stolen debit card. This stopped any further action. Second thing is I did not make those charges in Iraq and I need them refunded by tomorrow. They said that they would follow my instructions but, that if I need my new debit card fast there was a five dollar fee, to which I authorized to expedite the card.. Now a month later everything seems to be smooth sailing. Do not put up with their stuff If you did not do it then you are not responsible for it.. They need top come up with fail safe methods that can and will keep this from happening.. Maybe using a third party processor that takes the burden of identification out of the equation.. There also needs to be a library of such information of people places and different methods used, where they came from and where they were going.. We need to get UPS, FED X and the postal service involved when they see all of these strange packages going to strange addresses.. Then find out where they are.. Do not bother to arrest them just take everything that they own including their clothes and drop them onto a deserted island without any explanation.. Hope bad they are has to do with the distance away from humanity they are dropped.. Would not take too many of these to get people making it right.. I hope someone out there feels like me cause I am MAD over this. I am tired of getting all of the sh_t shoveled down my throat... I for one am ready just not quite sure how to handle it any ideas?

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Re: Identity Theft

03/17/2010 5:22 AM

Your big mistake is you havn't squandered enough.
If you make enough bad loans, bet on enough daft non existent comodities and generally screw up to the tune of a few billion the government will bail you out.

It makes me sick... a forged $20 bill, is just a promise with no legal back up...hmmm isn't that exactly what the bankers were doing (That $20 bill wasn't signed by Lehman brothers was it?)

My home town football (soccer) club has gone into admisinstration, the taxman and revenue guys are all over them like flies on sh1t.... no hope of a bail out for them. Football management is full of dodgy characters but no worse than those damn bankers and at least they give us some entertainment!
Play up Pompey!
calm calm...must have tea and biscuits...
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03/17/2010 8:03 AM

Next time you get a bad bill, put it in the collection plate at church. Then go down to the bar and watch the tv news to see if the finance chairman does the perp walk.

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03/17/2010 9:22 AM

Wow, that's a mouthful. Here's what I think we need...

Smaller government, not more, not bigger... if they kept their nose out of my business, and my bank's, then when wall street screws up then wall street goes under... (no such thing as "too big to fail"

I think we should start by putting term limits on our elected officials, the founding fathers of the US never intended government service to be a full time job, they formed this government with the thought that after people served, they would return to there farms.

but then, that's just me

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03/17/2010 11:10 AM

We should not put anyone back in a political post that has ever been there before. We need to start out with tried and true Americans with no political experience nor agenda. They may not be perfect but, they have to be better than what we have. Also if they do not live up to their promises they should be asked and accept an impeachment voluntarily... They should pay for their mistakes like the rest of us...

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03/17/2010 12:00 PM

No, it's not only you. But for a tea party it is absolutely necessary to eliminate any politician who tries to infiltrate.... And no political reward for those who organize the tea party.....and strict short terms....and no lobby....and it seems that I have to emigrate to Antarctica!

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03/17/2010 7:34 PM

I started to receive fees for everything impossible. In the good days I put $1000,00 on a bank account and it was growing. Now at Wachovia it is gone in less than a year, consumed to fees, that we never agreed on. Few calls, not even a nice and plausible explanation. I only worked with debit cards and these are fairly expensive too. So RIP, Wachovia. I found a more client friendly one, style good old days. Online banking in the US is a joke too. Where I have internet, I pay a bill in Europe to a different bank in 2 seconds, and the worst scenario is that my correspondent gets it 2 hours later. Here they need a third party- to write a check and send it by mail? Credit cards in Europe have chips in it. And to go online you need a card reader (yes- for free) with a algorithm and pin code equation or you can forget it. Ok. I had some bad luck too when the batteries went down. I had to make a call to send me one, freight at my expense. Maybe Europe is socialist - haha- but bank have to graduate every year and consumer organisations have power to keep the church in the middle. In the USA Ceasar's principle Divide et Impera keeps everything working for them. You pay the salaries, enough is enough. There is no literature in the bible about banks and credit cards specs? Pray to make the financial institutions shrink and come down to earth. It is almost Easter, when is the holy spirit expected? Ric, don't send them here to our island please.

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03/18/2010 1:56 PM

First, can anyone tell me WTH has this to do with engineering? Anyway…

Don't ask what the banks can do for you; ask what [else] you can do for the banks. And you'll surely get a prompt response.

This reminds me of the many Americans that had been feeding a Burmese python as a loving pet during years and are now desperately looking for the way of getting rid of the grown up monsters, which, by the way, are also too big to be easily disposed of.

I think the problem is not so much trusting the system, but letting the system do all our thinking for us. At the end, we'll inevitably wake up from the dream wondering WTH we were thinking about when we let it grow well beyond our control.

What's breaking into a bank compared with founding a bank? (B. Brecht)

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03/18/2010 4:04 PM

First, can anyone tell me WTH has this to do with engineering.

Indeed your reply has nothing to do with engineering.

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