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Do Chinese Pipes Sell Well in Japan?

03/21/2010 11:46 PM

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I work for the manufacturer of carbon steel pipes, they are seamless and butt weld, our customers are manily from Mid-east, India, African countries, but I haven't heard that our products every sold in Japan. I wonder if Chinese pipes don't enjoy the market in Japan but I'm not sure, is there any kind one to analyse this for me? Thanks

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Re: Does Chinese steel pipes sells good in Japan?

03/22/2010 2:00 AM

I don't know about today. But if you produce good quality, properly tested and documented piping components, and also make some successful contacts in Japan, then tomorrow the answer might be "Yes." Keep trying, and good luck.

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03/22/2010 2:06 AM

Thanks for your supports! I think the main factor is that we don't get any certificate suitalbe for Japanese market..

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03/22/2010 3:04 AM

In the Japanese context, JIS (Japan Industrial Standards) govern. I think the testing required is very similar to the ASME standards that the U.S. uses, and that there are references that will tell you which JIS specifications match ASME and other international specifications.

I do not know what standards may be used within domestic Chinese production. Such standards could be adopted from external sources, or be created internally. If you are using internal standards, you will need to check how they match with the standards in your target markets.

On CR4, Abdel Halim Galala, among others, is very knowledgeable in this area. Watch closely for his posts; you will learn a lot that may prove over time to be profitable.

By studying information like this, you will become able to give good advice to your manufacturing company, improving quality and market share. This is a gradual process, requiring patience and persistence.

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03/22/2010 4:08 AM

Thanks. We adopted many standards, such as ASME B16.9 etc, and same with JIS DIN standard, the materials are mainly ASTM A234 WPB, A106 Gr.B etc. Just like what you mentioned many standard are similar, just a little difference.

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03/22/2010 10:59 PM

From my experience, if you try to get certificate for the specific market such as Japanese market. Try to send your product to the test-lab in Japan to test and certified your product especially you are chinese manufacturer. Don't get upset over this comment as I beleived at this moment quality need to be improved to gain the trust from international market

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03/22/2010 11:02 PM

Thanks for your sugesstion, however our group don't have a plan to make any certificates in Japan, maybe I'll try other ways

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03/23/2010 1:42 AM

Local and Customised approvals is an important issue for CS pipes, both seamless and butt welded eg. Aramco approval for their projects.

With the price China manufacturers can offer it is essesntial for them to obtain such approvals before entering the market.

As for selling China make pipes and tubes in Japan similar requirement needs to be met. Look for obtaining JIS compliance and also with customised standards if any that are in vogue in Japan .

Then the prices and lead time could work.

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03/23/2010 1:52 AM

Thanks for your suggestion!

I will suggest our group to obtain such approvals, but I don't think they will follow me..

It seems it's very difficult to open the market of Japan but I'll try it

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03/23/2010 7:12 AM

Selling Pipes to Japan is like selling Ice to Eskimos. This is due to fact that Japanese have many reputed pipe mfrs. who export their Pipes throughout the world. They wont buy your pipes even if you offer them at your lowest price.

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03/23/2010 9:01 PM

Oh, that's really bad, in fact I'm not sure about the conditions, maybe I'll try other markets

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03/24/2010 5:23 PM

The main problem is not your standards or quality. It is your subsidies and pricing policies. The EU, U.S.A., and Canada all have very high anti-dumping duties applied to pipe from China. I do not know about other markets such as India or Japan but I suspect they have similar tariff barriers. You said in the previous thread that you do not wish to get into the politics but it is exactly the politics that make it difficult to market your product.

The best quality product in the world will have trouble overcoming a 182% import duty. I have had customers abandon an entire ship load of pipe from Peru when it was discovered that the country or origin was actually China and the goods would be subject to the 182% duties.

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03/24/2010 9:14 PM

Thanks! But I don't think there's any problem for Chinese Police and subsidies. The EU, USA or Canada put very high anti-dumping duties only because to protech their local manufacturers. In fact the subsidies for pipes from our government is very few. I do not want to involve in politics, I just want to do my business well, but it's necessary that I clarify the fact that Chinese policy and subsidies are very reasonable.

Another questions is that the flanges now be involved in the anti-dumping policy too? Anyhow my business must keep on! I think you must be the purchase manager of this kind product, then could you please kindly tell me how you search the suppliers? Thanks a lot!

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