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Suitable Cables for high harmonic (THD) generating machines

03/27/2010 5:18 AM

We are installing a texturising machine which has some AC drives(12 nos.) and heaters. As a regular practice we followed till date, we are using main cable of 3 and 1/2 core for connecting main supply to machine. This time, customer consultant is asking us to use 4 core cables for connections (3 phase and full neutral) saying there are harmonics generated in machine which could result into overheating of neutral conductor.

So, we measured the harmonics by giving the supply to machine. We found that the Total Harmonic Distortion is 35% when only drives are running, but it gets reduced to 12% when both heaters and drives are running.

Could you please suggest, does it really matter if we use the 3 and 1/2 core cable for the machine and is it really required? what will be the effect on the main supply cable? Connections from drive to motor is already done as a part of machine and we are just connecting the main supply cable to it? Till date, we have not faced any problems in the previous installations we did.

Kindly give your suggestions / comments.

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Re: Suitable Cables for high harmonic (THD) generating machines

03/27/2010 3:59 PM

I had a similar situation to help sort out last week. A 130KW motor driving an irrigation pump, and fed from a VFD which had been supplied without input filtering. 35% harmonic distortion of the input current, with the lions share of these being 5th harmonic.

The 250A circuit breaker, and the cables connecting between MCCB and drive, between MCCB and main busbars, and the neutral conductor were all running much hotter than they should have been, the MCCB needing to be fan-cooled to prevent it from tripping.

The choices offered were :

1) Install bigger cables and a larger MCCB, wind up the trip on the MCCB, and the only sign of a problem remaining will be the extra charges levied by the power company. Of course, if the power company gets annoyed about the level of harmonics being injected into their network, they may well choose to make this option even less attractive by ramping up the charges.

2) Buy proper input filtering for the VFD.

They were not very happy about the cost of the input filters, but will probably come to the conclusion that this is the best option once they do their sums.

It is unfortunate, but there are plenty of short-sighted VFD salesmen out there who think it is a good thing to win tenders on price by omitting components such as input filters. When the customer finds that these are needed, they have to pay quite a lot extra for them. This tends to be an excellent tactic to drive the customers in the direction of more honest suppliers, and that is just what has happened in the case above.

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03/27/2010 9:42 PM

In the case of non-linear loads (VFD, charger etc.), the return currents for 3rd harmonic from each of the three phases are in phase in the neutral and so the total 3rd harmonic neutral current is the arithmetic sum of the three individual 3rd harmonic phase currents. This is also true for odd multiples of the 3rd harmonic (9th, 15th, 21st, etc.). This is why it is sometime suggested that the neutral conductor is sized for 150 percent of the true root mean square (RMS) phase current. See the previous thread http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/43708 for details. The neutral may carry more current (unbalanced current + sum of 3rd and odd multiples of 3rd harmonic current) when the system is unbalanced.

I think, in this case, the cable you are talking about is the cable between the MCC and the VFD and/or between the VFD and the motor. In either of the cases, the system is mostly balanced and there will not be much neutral current due to unbalance. So, the neutral current may carry primarily the total 3rd harmonic (and odd multiples of 3rd harmonic) current. You mentioned the Total Harmonic Distortion (THD) is 35%. This contains all sorts of harmonics including 3rd harmonics. The worst case is that the THD contains only 3rd harmonics (but practically it is not) and then the possibility of neutral current is 3 x 35 = 105 times of phase current. So, the sizing of neutral conductor depends on what type of harmonic components of the harmonic current contains. For the worst case, the neutral conductor size is not enough. If the VFD provider can provide the type of harmonic current components, then you can decide the size is acceptable or not. The 3rd harmonic filter can also be used to eliminate the 3rd harmonic current from neutral conductor.

See also this link:

http://www.mirusinternational.com/downloads/ELIM-TG01-A1%20Eliminator%20Technical%20Guide.pdf

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Re: Suitable Cables for high harmonic (THD) generating machines

03/28/2010 2:31 PM

If the harmonic presence is there in yr system, especially 3rd Harmonic, then the flow of current in neutral will be enormous (even in multiples of phase current) and it requires higher size of the conductor than the phase conductor. So, the consultant what he asked is correct only. If you want to know more about Reactive power,plz attend Reactive Power Management (RPM) classes conducted by L&T Technical training centre at Coonoor, Ooty. There you will be even practically experimenting the amount of harmonic current flowing in the neutral.

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03/28/2010 8:29 PM

petjas,

The only harm you would experience in this recommendation is the added cost of the full-size core in the cable. Although Msamad has a lot of good and valid information regarding the problems caused by harmonics on a neutral core, it generally is invalid in your situation because the non-linear loads of the VFD's are line-line not line-neutral. I would be very surprised if any of your AC drives have a neutral connection, so it is impossible for them to impose harmonics on that core.

Regarding the decrease of the THD from 35% to 12% when the heaters are also running: If the heaters are switched on and off by contactors, then their load is purely resistive and has 0% THD. Adding a significant amount of total load at 0% THD to a portion at 35% THD will clearly reduce the aggregate % THD to the number you have observed. (If, however, the heaters were controlled through a variable voltage output solid-state control device, then they would also be imposing their own harmonics on the system.)

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Re: Suitable Cables for high harmonic (THD) generating machines

03/29/2010 12:49 AM

instead of experimenting with cable why dont you try to eliminate the harmonics

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Re: Suitable Cables for high harmonic (THD) generating machines

02/19/2011 10:20 PM

could cut the time try using filter or cap bank

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Re: Suitable Cables for high harmonic (THD) generating machines

03/13/2011 1:21 AM

good information

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