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Grounding of Water Meter

03/28/2010 10:16 AM

A few weeks ago I posted a question asking why the electric meter needed tobe grounded on the street side of the meter, as per code of city where I live, a suburb of Chicago. Turns out that thru an error in printing the inspection reports it was not made clear that its the WATER METER that needs a ground wire from the street side back to the electrical box. According to code a ground wire must be attached to the water line entering the house (street side) whitin 5 feet of entering the house back to the electrical box with a jumper across the water meter. Also this wire must be in conduit. evidently there have been some accidents, some fatal, from not doing this properly. It gets a little complicated to understand the thinking that an improper ground can cause a fire in your neighbors house but then again I am not an electrical engineer. Maybe someone out there can explain better then I can.

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03/28/2010 4:52 PM

If I understand your statement properly, then there is some additional feedback that I can give.

The accidents and deaths relate to water authority staff. While replacing water meters, (with the meter removed) the supply side and the household side effectively become two terminals of a power source. One "live" and the other grounded through the water mains. We have extensive procedures to fit a bypass earth strap while replacing meters plus a few other actions.

Note that it is not possible to test for the potential condition since a defective refrigerator motor might be "off" when you test and then later provide a shock potential when the thermostat switches it on.

From my experince int he coal mines, there might also be concern relating to a phenomenon called "transfer potential" where the voltage at another location is effectively conducted through conducting materials (like the pipes) to a remote location (your neighbours vanity taps) giving them an electricall potential if they are in contact with "ground" on some other electrical device.

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03/29/2010 9:11 AM

Thank You! Thats exactly what I ment.

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03/28/2010 8:14 PM

There have also been cases where a fault in the Neutral connection in one building (house) causes current to flow through the Earth Conductor and Plumbing which are both bonded to neighbouring houses via the MEN link to get back to the neutral.

When this happens, both ends of the pipe become live terminals if the meter is removed or the pipe cut.

I gets worse when sections of plastic pipe or lagged pipe come into the picture (Hot water or Recycled water) and the water may be what is carrying the current so as the pipe is cut the saw or cutter "make" the connection.

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03/28/2010 11:58 PM

The main reason any metal object needs earthing is for what is in Australia, where I live called "equipotential bonding". It may have another name, but will mean the same thing. The purpose of this bonding is to ensure that any metal apparatus is always at the same electrical potential. That is to say, there should never be an voltage difference between metal parts that any person can contact. By earthing all metal, they are all held at zero potentiol to one another. You should not be able to accidently touch for instance a dishwasher and the SS Sinktop to which a metal water pipe can be connected and recieve an slectric shock, or as I discovered once a metal drainage fitting in the bath tub and the water tap. That person was very indignant as he was sitting on the plug in the bottom of the bath. Metal frames in sheds often need top be bonded but in some cases if all double insulated cable is in contact with the frame, it may not be compulsory, depending upon the rules and regulations in your area.

I hope I have explained this well enough. If not I shall be glad to enlarge the description.

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03/29/2010 9:23 AM

Thanks! You and "just an engineer" explained it quite well. I hope I didn't confuse a lot of people with the grounding of the "electrical meter" although If there are no water pipes , as in My garage/shop Which has its own meter, I had to drive an 8 foot grounding rod into the ground and attach to the electrical meter neutral line.

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03/29/2010 6:01 PM

Oilcan13,

Is this a second grounding rod on your property???

Is there a distribution board or load centre in you garage with an Earth conductor coming from the house??

The reason I ask is that this may lead to other problem due to a ground loop between the two Earth rods and possibly corrosion problems if your shed is steel or steel framed.

Might want to check it out.

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