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submersible pump head measurment

03/31/2010 2:27 AM

Can we measure the submersible pump head by a pressure transmitter & where to mount it?

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Re: submersible pump head measurment

03/31/2010 7:04 AM

Gauge pressure submersible pressure transmitters are commercially available with custom cable/vent tube lengths and ranges. The vent tube provides the atmospheric reference pressure.

The cable/vent tube can be secured to the pipe, but care has to be taken not to crimp the vent tube closed.

The caveats on mounting the sensor are
- where it doesn't see a venturi effect from the suction of the pump, which might mean mounting it up above the pump slightly to get it away from the suction
- keeping debris from clogging the sensor - the waste water people mount the sensor in a slotted cage to keep debris away from the sensor. In a clean water well or clean material tank, that isn't usually done.

Some thought should be given to attempting to prevent condensation in the vent tube. Atmospheric air, moisture laden in humid climates can chill below dewpoint (well water or tank liquid temperature is below dewpoint) and condense water in the vent tube, which can shift the 'zero' reference point. Dessicant on the top side helps. Changing it on occasion helps even more.

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Re: submersible pump head measurment

03/31/2010 11:29 PM

I hate having too much electric stuff down the hole. Can't you just mount your measuring device in a convenient spot outside of the well, and add the depth to the pump to the readings?

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Re: submersible pump head measurment

04/04/2010 2:40 PM

I just re-read the original question and realized that I read "submersible pump head" too quickly and interpreted it as "submersible head pressure".

If one needs to measure the level of the well water, using a submersible gauge pressure transmitter is one way to do so, and the sensor needs to be down the hole to make the measurement.

But, if the measurement needed is pump head, then yes, locating the pressure transmitter at the top, up and outside of the well, and adding in the elevation head would provide a good measurement. All the associated problems of having an inaccessible transmitter down in a well hole would vanish.

As the current vernacular goes: my bad.

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04/04/2010 2:51 PM

Wouldn't the level of water in the well above the pump be considered suction head? Reading water level is important, can be done with a capacitance device. A pressure sensor at the pump will also tell you water depth above the pump.

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Re: submersible pump head measurment

04/06/2010 8:14 AM

That's exactly the way it is done in countless borehole water installations across the globe.

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