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When the Load of a Generator is Suddenly Dropped

04/20/2010 12:59 PM

I am an Electrical Eng.

Suppose a Generator is running with electrical load of hundreds of Mega Watts. That means a boiler is generating steam at the rate which can supply the energy to turbine and generator coupled with it. Now if any fault occurs in power grid, and a generator trips in fraction of seconds. A sudden drop in load will tend to increase the speed of turbine/generator. So how the input to the boiler is adjusted ? Or where the energy is consumed between the period of tripping of generator and lowering the fuel supply of boiler.

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Re: When the Load of a Generator is Suddenly Dropped

04/20/2010 4:07 PM

This is a very basic simplified example – generator main trips, facility PCL (Program Logic Control) senses trip (loss of demand) and within a millisecond 1) reduces the stator voltage (delivered via separate stator generator) at the prime generator, 2) Electro actuated steam supply valve begins to throttle down reducing the supply to generator, 3) Purge valve on steam loop opens on high line and vents to atmosphere, 4) Coal delivery to boiler is slowed to "idle" feed.

Once all of the functions above are in motion, the PLC senses and stabilizes the following 1) Maintain required stator voltage to maintain in plant operational systems, 2) adjust steam supply to prime generator to maintain in plant operational systems, 3) Close stream purge valve once balance between demand and supply of steam is stabilized, 4) Adjust coal feed to boiler(s) based on current steam demand.

Obviously much, much more goes on during a demand loss event but I thought this would be the best way to describe it without going into all of the nuts, bolts, springs and washers.

The simplified scenario above is based on an operating system used at an older (built 1929) coal/steam/generation plant that was decommissioned in 2004 that I had worked at.

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Re: When the Load of a Generator is Suddenly Dropped

04/20/2010 9:13 PM

The steam supply to the turbine must be able to be throttled/stopped quickly to prevent overspeed (centrifugal break-up, bearing damage). However, the boiler is a sizable energy-sink (analogous to a huge capacitor), so the fuel/air rate to the boiler need not respond so quickly. I'm sure that's over-simplified--just a basic idea.

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Re: When the Load of a Generator is Suddenly Dropped

04/20/2010 11:55 PM

Turbine bypass valves are provided, instead of sky valves, to bypass excess steam from boiler straight to condenser (after pressure reduction and desuperheating with water). This avoids wastage of demin water.

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Re: When the Load of a Generator is Suddenly Dropped

04/21/2010 2:32 AM

I am also an electrical engineer but trying to reply the question based on my experience in the related field. Electrical protection is classified in three categories. Class A, where the fault is within the generator and immediate tripping the generator is required to minimise the damage. In this case over speeding of the turbine generator set will take place. Class B trip is the one where the fault in out side the generator and therefore first the turbine trip signal is given and all the stored energy is allowed to be spent before tripping the generator. fault is fed till such time. Class C trip is used where there is provision of Low Pressure bye pass. In this case when the fault is out side the generator (in the grid), only the main circuit breaker is tripped isolating from the faulty grid but continues to supply the local load. This also permits re-synchronization of the generator quickly after the fault is cleared or faulty section of the grid is taken out of grid. As rightly pointed out, LP bye pass system passes the extra steam to the condenser.

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Re: When the Load of a Generator is Suddenly Dropped

04/21/2010 3:16 AM

A large water cooled breaking resistor is switched in accross the output of the generator. This safely slows the generator down while heating up a nearby lake, river or reservoir.

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Re: When the Load of a Generator is Suddenly Dropped

04/21/2010 6:12 AM

the generator speed control Governor takes care of this situation you can visit Woodward governors on google you will find lot of useful information

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04/22/2010 12:42 AM

As a power plant automation engineer, I fully agree with KJK, in the modern power plants this is what is happening. When a particular generator goes out from the grid other plant shares its load by raising their out put to maintain the grid frequency. if the load from the grid goes off (a feeder trips)all the units in the grid reduces their out put to maintain the grid frequency. this concept is used in all power plants, their doop may differ ( loading / unloading slope with respect to frequency) and called "free governing system" or "free governor mode operation".

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Re: When the Load of a Generator is Suddenly Dropped

04/30/2013 10:51 AM

Dear friend,

Once the Generator is tripped, the Auto-Control for Fuel Feeding, Combustion, Combustion air flow, ID, FD and SA Fan, Feed Water Flow etc., will be instantly start acting and control.

The Turbo-Set will come to Island Mode and maintain power supply for the auxiliary load.

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Re: When the Load of a Generator is Suddenly Dropped

04/30/2013 11:29 AM

when load dropped suddenly,generator speed rise rapidly.so governor closed fully.in boiler water level increase rapidly,so boiler is trip and cut off its source energy.

when governor closed,steam pressure increase in pipeline so relief valve operate and steam release in atmosphere.

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