Three Force Continual Motion

Is this an idea for an over-unity device? That's what it sounds like. I have no clue as to the force equations for magnetism. However, if you are looking for someone here to confirm [energy in < energy out], you're barking up the wrong tree. Indeed, it will never be the right tree no matter where you go.

I am not sure what you mean sorry

does this help ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFJSlMcgh1A&feature=related

A picture would be worth a thousand words, but for just thirteen, no matter what you are thinking, it will not work as you hope.

This is a popular device, don't know if anyone has got one really working yet. I always wondered if the moving magnetic device was an electromagnet, and the circuit to it was broken and made at just the right places by a brush riding on contacts. That may just be an electric motor. But if the power for the electromagnet was coming from the rotation of the shaft driving a generator, then the unit could drive itself.

It would be fun to experiment with. You may need electronic devices to enhance the device, it's a good field to study.

Force equations for motors are well known. If you asking about junk science perpetual motion free energy magnetic motors (Perendev, etc.), you don't want to know about equations because equations will show you these motors don't really work.

Except for mass-energy conversion from nuclear reactions,

> ANY type of motor/engine requires the input of some real form of energy and

> the output energy of ANY motor/engine will NEVER exceed the input energy.

I have watched many you-tube videos of free energy magnet motors and it is quite clear to me where some of them (the ones that are not obvious hoaxes) get their initial rotational energy from. Hint: it's not the magnets. It is also quite clear that none of these toys will produce more energy that what was initially applied. Some of them nicely demonstrate basic magnetic principles but beyond that they are just curious paperweights.

If your goal is to build a free energy perpetual motion machine, you are wasting your time. Suggest your spend that time studying basic physics and engineering principles. Once you understand these principles, you will be in a much better position to develop real advances.

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm

Thank you, PWSlack, for a great link!

I would love to give you a GA for it... but it sort of crashes the OP question.

Many, many interesting points within the website. In particular:

Production of useful work is limited by the laws of thermodynamics, but the production of useless work seems to be unlimited.
—Donald Simanek