Ancient Pyramids Are Machines

"Any thoughts?"

Yes. Many thoughts. None of them complimentary to you!

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OK. OK I'm going to the naughty step.

One of my favorite sci-fi books was 'Radio Planet', about a guy stuck on a fairly primitive planet with no way to call home. He had to develop all the materials and technology to make a radio to call for rescue. The inhabitants had no idea what a radio was. He put different tribes on separate missions to make radio parts. He had to deal with tribal politics and rivalries. It was a great book.

When I look at some of the mysterious stuff here, I think of that book. What if some traveler needed to 'phone home' a long time ago, and his radio was busted. He would have to do the same thing. On the solstice, an air shaft in the Great Pyramid points at a certain star in Orion at a certain time of the day. Could be just coincidence, it has to point at something, and it's always moving.

Many cultures place importance on Orion, or the Pleadies. Coincidence?

There's just too many mysteries for us to explain away. Hundred ton stones moved by primitive cultures. Nazca lines visible from the air, illegible from the ground. Ancient maps showing Antartica with no ice. Crop circles are too well done for folks with string. Too many UFOs to be fake.

Bullsh!t has to be distilled twice to make it this pure. (I've said that before about other things, but it bears saying again.) If Lynlynch and I wind up together on the naughty step, we can arm-wrestle over who buys the first round....

Oh, is it you guys doing those nice crop circles? Nice work. Now show me how to get a hundred ton stone out of the quarry pit, and no wheels or pulleys, mind you.

Easy. Just get God to levitate it for you.

Ever heard of Coral Castle in Florida? That guy moved some heavy coral chunks around all by himself, and it wasn't that long ago. He didn't say that God did it, just said if you believed as he did, you could do it too. Edgar Cayce said the same thing about his abilities.

I don't doubt that Edgar Cayce said stuff like that. How does it contradict my post 5?

I generally keep God and aliens separate. I don't think God cares to help us move stones, it's not what he does. Super duper levitation powers are something else, but I don't think the guy at Coral Castle had that. I think he used a more down to Earth trick, but I guess levitation is a remote possibility. I'm more of a scientific type than psychic. I'm always looking for a logical answer for these mysteries.

Of course, Casey was psychic, so there you go, and he did give God credit for his ability.

Please explain.

I know how to do it. My aching back won't let me anymore, but I have moved over a ton by hand and I see no insurmountable difficulty in scaling up. Make it worth my while and I'll do it. But, why do you say "no wheels, no pulleys". How long ago do you think the pyramids were built?

All the shows on pyramids state that no wheels or pulleys are shown in drawings on tomb walls or elsewhere. Just dragging. They have a huge obelisk still in the quarry, cracked and abandoned. It's in a hole, they dug around it, were going to undercut it, but it cracked. Somehow they were going to lift it out, but for the life of me, I can't figure out how, and the shows don't have that answer either. They would not have dug it if they didn't have a way of lifting it. They are just not showing us how to do it.

Modern contractors tried to get coral blocks the size of the ones in Coral Gardens out of the ground. With the latest hydraulic excavators they couldn't. All the guy that did it had was a block and tackle the size you would use to lift a car motor, about two or three hundred pounds.

Sarcasm will not make these mysteries go away. Scientific examination and an open mind will solve them eventually.

I was hardly being sarcastic. We know there were wheels in use for least a thousand years prior to the building of the pyramids. Did the Egyptians just not hear?

The Egyptians are shown using chariots with wheels, I just don't know if that was during the pyramid building time. They may have gotten the wheel from others later, I thought I saw a show where the Hittites attacked the Egyptians with chariots, and the Egyptians copied them.

It just strikes me as odd that there are not many drawings showing how they did stuff. Maybe it was considered state secrets, like modern weapon secrecy now.

some years ago just for fun and to impress my kids i moved a large rock at the seaside it would of been around half a ton.

i moved it by kneeling down and removed the sand from the front and moved the sand to the backof the rock and sure enough the rock moved forward and of course down. now evey few yards you dig a small curved shape in the sand when the rock gets to the start of the curve it rolls down the curve picks up speed and rolls to the top of the curve and with the rock now higher you start again.

now given time and a lot of sand i am sure i could move just about naything like that.

JUST BECAUSE YOU CANT THINK OF A SOLUTION DOESNT MEAN THERE ISNT ONE.

Try and be a little more modest

All right, I confess. Being psychic, I used the power of The Dark Side of The Force to create crop circles, cause hundreds of people to hallucinate & see UFOs, create poltergeists etc.

Hey, what's the use of possessing great power if you can't use it to amuse yourself by freaking other people out, right?

Vader,

It's "psycho", not "psychic".

By the way, did you turn my neighbor's pool green?

"By the way, did you turn my neighbor's pool green?"

Yes, I innoculated his pool with algae and replaced the chlorine in his chlorinator with plant food. Oh, and I did it just because I could, not for any other reason.

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The only way you're setting on the naughty step with me is if you wear a tin foil hat.

That way, the lightning will strike you first.

I've got the first round!

The truth is that it is impossible to know why or how these ancient structures were built, we can only speculate. Do not knock a theory because it cannot be dis-proven by you or anyone, that can't be disputed. The engineering and precision that went into these structures are puzzling even by today's standards, even more so because they were created thousands of years ago. Of all the ancient sites my favorite has to be Puma Punku. If there is supposedly a reasonable explanation for all of these sites, please explain this one.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Ancient-Mysteries-Puma-Punku-in-Tiahuanaco

I'll reply here to keep all my ancient mystery stuff in one thread. A long time ago, I read a book about South Americans working stone. I don't have the book anymore, so I can't refer to it for quotes.

In this book, an explorer found a liquid in a container that his local guides would not touch. When he spilled some on the ground, it melted the rock. The locals said the liquid was from a local plant, it was found by watching a bird drill into rock cliffs for nest sites. The bird would take a leaf and mash it against the rock to melt a nest hole. Pretty good trick. I would love to have some of that stuff for my masonry drill as a cutting fluid.

I don't know if this is true, but would love to be able to research it.

Very interesting Mike...Let me know if you find anything else about this mysterious liquid. Although I find it hard to believe that "melting" away the stone would yield such pefect edges as seen at Puma Punku, but I could be wrong. It seems as though only a very precise and powerful tool would be capable of making those marks.

My theory, and mind you, it's just a theory, is the locals knew about the leaf. For an Incan wall stone fit, put a bunch of leaves between two heavy stones and rock gently. Wherever the stones crush the leaf, the stone dissolves. Continue rinsing and cramming in leaves and rocking until the stones fit, then do a final rinse to remove the debris.

For precise channels in automatic transmission parts, a process called electrical discharge machining is used. An electrode is made to the negative image of the product, and power is applied to the electrode while submerged in a conductive liquid. The discharge eats perfect images in the product, flowing liquid removes the debris. Great for square holes and complex channels.

A process like that would make the carvings at Puma Punku, but I don't know. It would make more sense to me to temporarily soften the stone, form your shape with a wooden die, and then let the stone re-harden. That's how I would do it.

I can come to grips with "dissolving" rocks, but never with re-hardening rocks.

Your implication is that the rock is miraculously returned to its original composition.

I cannot accept this.

If you look at Incan walls, the stones actually look like piled up sandbags, rounded and saggy looking. Maybe it was just a look they liked, or maybe that's how the wall looked when the rock solidified. Just to drive me crazy is the stones that still have lifting tabs on them, or indentations. I guess if you are forming a big stone in a woven basket you would need to prop it up with poles to keep it in place, and they would leave a mark.

Sure would like to go there and snoop around, get real friendly with the locals. If you hang around enough, share, and don't be stuck up, locals will accept you after a while.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/pyramids/pyramids.html

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=pyramids+of+egypt+facts&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-gb:IE-SearchBox&source=univ&tbs=bks:1&tbo=u&ei=O53US_a_LabYmwOq1u3KDw&sa=X&oi=book_group&ct=title&cad=bottom-3results&resnum=11&ved=0CCYQsAMwCg

http://www.love-egypt.com/pyramids-of-egypt.html

http://www.plim.org/greatpyramid.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coral_Castle

i have lots of thoughts thanks

the ancient eygptians believed in an afterlife and the pyramids where aligned to aid them is this desire,

to the other guy talking about radios.

using your or our advanced Knowledge please explain how using the tools avalable say 100 years ago not thoushands but using tools of 100 years ago you could make a transmitter ? if you can and build a working transmitter i will beleive you

Downhill is not too tough for rocks. It's uphill and stacking that gets difficult. Precision fits by just beating with stones is impressive. I can just see the guys at the Incan wall now....Hey guys, lift this ten ton stone up for a while so I can beat on it. Ok, down now. Nope, doesn't fit yet, up again.......how many times?

Not so difficult for the Egyptians, at least their stones were cubes, all they had to do was get them real flat. Yeah, beat on granite until it is pool table flat, and dead square. Real quick now, the Pharoah is dying. Now stack it over there. No whining.

As far as the radio, it was a great book, you should look for it. Just making a glass vacuum tube took a whole chapter. 'Radio Planet'. The author had a good sense of humor, too.

I keep a crystal radio kit in my keepsake box, just in case all else fails. The design is very old, the items simple. To transmit morse code, a good spark will do. Static electricity (lightning) is picked up by AM radio. It's not that much of a stretch to imagine ancients figuring out how to make or re-direct static electricity.

No sign of any static electricity generator in the pyramid, but are we looking in the right place? Maybe the pyramid re-directed lightning to the desires of the builders. The cap stone is gone, it was reported to be metal. Has anyone looked for a conductor down from the top?

Lightning don't need no stinking conductor, just get out of it's way. Provide a path and jump back.

Now you'll tell me there is no lightning in Egypt. And gee, what was the tallest thing in the area?

What are you talking about ?

In your post #25 you questioned the possibility of ancient transmitters. I say we are just not recognizing what we are looking at. Tesla was doing his work almost a hundred years ago, and Marconi goes back to those days too. Issac Newton was playing around with the technology waaay back when.

If a person already has the scientific knowledge, all he needs is the ability to use crude materials to make a transmitter. A good spark will do the job. It's amber and something else, just rub them together. Both are ancient.

All thoughts covered by numerous Sci-Fi authors and movies/series like Star Trek, Stargate, The Fifth Element, etc. While I enjoy most of this type of fantasy entertainment, it should never be confused with reality.

You are correct, the pyramids are machines created to produce a magnetic force field around the Earth to protect it from meteorites and planet x or marduk, fix replenish the o zone layer, and realignment of Earths magnetic polarities. Rarth works like a generator and the pyramid is the machine which activates it. The gold pyramidions have to be placed on top though to complete the process.