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Machine Screws

04/26/2010 8:27 AM

My request is simple. I need a #8-32 x 3/8 Flat Head Machine Screw, 100 deg., in 18-8 SS, #1 Phillips. The problem seems is that, up to now, I have not been able to find this hardware as a stock item anywhere (#2 Phillips is standard). We are a small company and can't afford to layout ~~$1000 to run off parts that may not be what we need. Thanks in advance to anyone who can lend a hand.

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04/26/2010 10:11 AM

peterg7lyq, I appreciate the input but I've already done the whole "google search" thing to no avail. I'm now trying to reach outside the box and see if someone knows specific places that I should check out.

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04/26/2010 10:21 AM

Well, that is an unusual request.

Here is a link to a datasheet, with all requirements met... sort of. Phillips drive size is #2... #1 drive not available until #4 shank. As you indicate, I believe a small run of custom screws would be expensive. If this particular requirement is important to your process, you might consider it simply a cost of doing business.

Is it impractical to change drivers for the process involved? Is it a good idea to assemble with a component that will be next to impossible for a subsequent user to replace correctly?

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04/26/2010 10:34 AM

Thanks Doorman. I appreciate your suggestions, particularly regarding down line use. You're right about the web site. Yet another company that doesn't offer a #1 drive until you drop down to a #4-40.

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04/26/2010 10:41 AM

You're welcome Casper85. Glad to be of limited help.

This thread is still pretty new... give it a while, someone may know of a manufactured item that hits all of your spec's.

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04/26/2010 6:50 PM

Is this a manufacturing requirement, or a product requirement? 

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04/26/2010 11:34 PM

They don't meet your Ph #1 requirement, but I usually go here for hard to find parts:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#machine-screws/=6u4j6g

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04/27/2010 12:06 AM

What is so sacred about #1 Phillips? are you trying to limit tightening torque?

I have a fairly extensive screw collection, and just checked several hundred assorted screws. All the #8 and #6 Philips heads were #2 Phillips.

Just accept that #2 is standard, and go with that! If you must use #1 to limit torque, or perhaps to make the driver fit through a limited entry, redesign the part with #4 screws.

Personally, I'd abandon Phillips for Hex or Torx - MUCH better for the repairman when the time comes... Unfortunately, very few devices are designed with repair in mind. From my point of view, any device that isn't designed to be repaired ought to have a stiff disposal surcharge.

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04/27/2010 12:21 AM

Try here...we use them and they are not too expensive.

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04/27/2010 3:06 AM

You haven't told us yet why you want #1 Phillips.

There's lots of people here who might be able to suggest a way around your real problem.

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04/27/2010 3:42 PM

Agreed, OP has not stated why #1 phillips is a requirement. I would think a tooling change would be fairly cheap (buy a new set of bits for under $10), far cheaper than making a non-standard screw. The problem with making a #1 Phillips #8-32 screw is that the torque required to screw/unscrew it may exceed the cam-out torque of the #1 Phillips. There is a reason why #8-32 screws use a #2 Phillips.

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04/27/2010 8:25 AM

Why not go to Canadas answer a #1 robertson (US square) a #6 thread and a #4 thread are a #1 size robertson 1/4 or 3/8 length no problem the bit is easier to use on a machine cost of screws @ $C2.39 for 100.

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Re: Machine Screws

04/27/2010 10:47 AM

Did you try 'Small Parts, Inc"? They have a wide selection of fasteners.

http://www.smallparts.com/

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04/27/2010 10:54 AM

I don't know where in the world you are but we buy 4-40 UNC x 3/16" 100° c'sk pozi drive screws in the UK from PTS-UK. I can't see from their data what size the drive is but it might be worth contacting them.

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04/27/2010 11:12 AM

Why not consider a "Robertson" other wise known as a square drive.

I call it a Phillips that works!

There is also Torx and Allan heads

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04/27/2010 2:08 PM

if not Mcmaster did you try Fastenal, www.fastenal.com

If its not a standard item, you will pay more

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Re: Machine Screws

05/15/2010 10:39 PM

i think we can help you , we are professional Manufacturer for all kinds of metal parts and screws, please tell us detail information and quantity , maybe we can make for you!

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06/07/2010 5:56 PM

Did you try US Micro Screw? www.usmicroscrew.com

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